Mother chased bailiffs with meat cleaver and carving knife....Given suspended prison sentence.

[Bailiff Advice]

The following is an extract of an article that appeared on SCOOP yesterday:

 

 

 

A MOTHER chased bailiffs with a meat cleaver and a carving knife, a court heard.

 

Tanya Magee was in her flat in Sunny Bank, West Hull, on September 21 when two bailiffs and two employees from Headstart properties arrived. They had come to evict her from the property after giving them notice to leave.

 

Bailiffs entered the property with a key given to them by the company, and found Nagee in the flat when they arrived.

 

Hull Crown Court heard initially proceedings were civil, and Nagee spoke to the bailiffs and requested more time. But when Nagee heard the Headstart employees begin changing the front door locks, she grabbed a kitchen meat cleaver and carving knife and ran downstairs to them, the court heard.

 

Nagee was handed an eight-month prison sentence, suspended for 12 months, and was ordered to undertake a 30-day rehabilitation activity requirement with the Together Women project.

 

Judge Bury said: "In the next 12 months, if you don't comply with the activity requirement, you will be in breach and will be sent back here and you can expect to be re-sentenced to a term of eight months in custody."

 

Nagee was also ordered to pay a £900 court charge, and a victim surcharge of £100 which will be paid as compensation to Headstart Properties. The damage caused to the vehicle was estimated to be worth £140.

 

 

 

Full story here:

 

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-mother-chased-bailiffs-carving-knife-walks/story-28348975-detail/story.html#ixzz3uVapzLee

Edited December 17, 2015 by citizenB
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[andydd]

Damaging a police mattress with a fingernail ?, thats clutching at straws at bit isnt it ?

[unclebulgaria67]

I don't think the people doing these evictions always handle them in the best way. When you are taking away the roof over a families head, the parents will sometimes react in a way that is defensive. There should be a better way, involving local authority or housing charity, where alternative housing arrangements are sorted out in advance. If it gets to the stage of a forced eviction, which might become violent, then there should be Police attending.

 

If it gets to the stage where situations like the case highlighted happen, then the process being followed has not worked.

[Bailiff Advice]

Damaging a police mattress with a fingernail ?, thats clutching at straws at bit isnt it ?

 

Most odd indeed. I am assuming that the damage must have been done in the prison cell following her arrest. For all we know, she may have used her fingernail to cut into the mattress and then used her hands to pull out the contents. There has to be more to this charge than is being reported.

[andydd]

I don't think the people doing these evictions always handle them in the best way. When you are taking away the roof over a families head, the parents will sometimes react in a way that is defensive. There should be a better way, involving local authority or housing charity, where alternative housing arrangements are sorted out in advance. If it gets to the stage of a forced eviction, which might become violent, then there should be Police attending.

 

If it gets to the stage where situations like the case highlighted happen, then the process being followed has not worked.

 

Indeed, watching the Cant Pay episodes on TV one thing is clear suddenly turning up on a doorstep and demanding people move out within 1 hour is ridicuolus, it almost inevitably causes problems for both parties, it heightens the risk of people flipping out and becoming violent, this then involves the police being called, if I were the police Id register my complaint to the powers that be that the police have far better things to do, especially if they are just being used to back up the bailiff in what is a civil matter.

[Ell-enn]

It is indeed monstrous that bailiffs can turn up and tell families they have 1 hour to get things together and then they're out on the pavement. I saw an episode where a mother and 3 children were treated this way - she had never been in arrears but the landlord wanted the house back for one of his family. She was a working mother who had trained as a nurse, kept her kids well looked after and the house in good condition, but because she received some benefits to top up her income she couldn't find another landlord to rent her a property.

[citizenB]

outlawla, post unapproved as it has nothing to do with this topic - cease hijacking other peoples threads

[Peterbard]

As you were

 

You only get to see one side in cases like this unfortunately, it is of course regrettable when anyone looses their home but you do wonder what it was that led upto this unfortunate occurrence.

 

There was mention of a previous court case, so I presume that there was a reason why the lease was ended. Either a section 8 or 21 notice would have been issued giving the occupant either a couple of weeks or maybe two months before the repo hearing could be started. Then there would have been notes from the court, then the case itself.

 

Following this there would have been a judgement , following that there would have been application to move it up in order to enforce. then finally enforcment, hardly an overnight occurrence.

Initially there would have had to been good reason for the court to grant the order, they do not grant them for nothing.

 

You can speculate as to the reasons, maybe arrears or given the propensity for violence perhaps an ongoing situation with neighbours, who knows. It is good news however to see that they have been re housed subsequently.

[citizenB]

I was watching the 6pm news earlier and there are over 69,000 people in a similar situation to this lady, where they have been evicted for one reason or another.

 

One family, coach driver - 3 children have been moved to "temporary accommodation" 4 times since 2011 when they were evicted from their privately rented property. I think the reason for that was due to the landlord wanting the property for someone in his own family.

[Peterbard]

I was watching the 6pm news earlier and there are over 69,000 people in a similar situation to this lady, where they have been evicted for one reason or another.

 

One family, coach driver - 3 children have been moved to "temporary accommodation" 4 times since 2011 when they were evicted from their privately rented property. I think the reason for that was due to the landlord wanting the property for someone in his own family.

 

They would have to wait to the end of the tenancy agreement unless there was other reasons. I agree though that there should be further safeguards. According to the housing act, anyone who becomes homeless through no fault of there own and is vulnerable should be given accommodation, if this happens in practice or not I do not know.

 

In the case you mention(probably arrears) the authority would only have to supply temporary accommodation whilst the person found his own , plus they should advises on where best to look

[Bailiff Advice]

I was watching the 6pm news earlier and there are over 69,000 people in a similar situation to this lady, where they have been evicted for one reason or another.

 

One family, coach driver - 3 children have been moved to "temporary accommodation" 4 times since 2011 when they were evicted from their privately rented property. I think the reason for that was due to the landlord wanting the property for someone in his own family.

 

Just seen a similar news report and in one case, the person had been evicted. She did not have a tenancy agreement so had been unable to claim housing benefits. She immediately visited the housing dept and as she is a single mother she was only granted emergency overnight accommodation.

 

Returning back to the vulnerable lady given a suspended prison sentence, it is good to at least hear that she has now been granted local authority housing.

[brassnecked]

Wait until the Tories impose short term tenancies on Council Tenants.

[Bailiff Advice]

I was watching the 6pm news earlier and there are over 69,000 people in a similar situation to this lady, where they have been evicted for one reason or another.

 

One family, coach driver - 3 children have been moved to "temporary accommodation" 4 times since 2011 when they were evicted from their privately rented property. I think the reason for that was due to the landlord wanting the property for someone in his own family.

 

There is a news story today on SCOOP showing the official figures from the Department for Communities and Local Government of people living in emergency B&B accommodation. There has been a rise of 45% in the last 12 months.

 

http://www.scoop.it/t/lacef-news

 

http://www.welfareweekly.com/number-homeless-families-living-bbs-hits-12-year-high-england/

[citizenB]

That is quite a shocking report. However, when you take a good look you will see there are plenty of council/social properties that are empty and for one reason or another are not being used.

 

Were all these people who are now homeless "evicted" from private accommodation and for what reason - You see plenty of stories where the Private Landlords simply do not want tenants who are reliant on Housing Benefit. Or just want to increase their rents.

[caledfwlch]

One of the reasons this comes as a shock of course, is Councils when contacted never, ever mention that HCEO's could turn up in a couple of days, instead advising the tenant has 2 months.

[caledfwlch]

I don't know if this was mentioned elsewhere, but Tom Crawford was found not guilty of assaulting a police officer when it finally got to Court. The judge actually lambasted Police for being too aggressive and or violent towards HIM"" Nice to see one that doesn't automatically assume that whatever the Police say is correct, regardless of lack of, or other evidence.

[DavidP24]

I think it is disgusting that they are making money from a TV programme depicting the misery they put on people.

 

I can totally understand how this lady felt, when I had the threat of a bailiff I decided a solid chest of drawers wedged between door and wall. for a three week period As it happened they did not come

 

My usual tactic to not engage, do not answer door, block their phone numbers and make sure they know I have mental health issues.

Edited February 20, 2016 by Andyorch
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