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Rundles bailiffs - notice of enforcement - council tax debt I need help please


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theres is no right of entry on CTAX debts

you should already know this wit the number of previous threads involving bailiffs and CTAX...

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

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I should but I forget, and being stressed, and at my wits end it is difficult to focus on what I know, or should know. I did read some of the older thread but must have skipped the bit about right of entry. Thanks for the reminder to read stuff - I will take it in the spirit it's meant

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DX is correct, no right of entry for Council tax, or a Council PCN Is that parking Ticket Council, police or a Private parking Contractor like Parking Eye?

 

I would still hide that car if possible. they might clamp it for spite to put pressure on to get say a payday loan (naughty) to pay them.

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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It would be certainly worth you contacting your local Councillor(s) and ask they intervene on your behalf

- best initial contact is by phone and my view is they are contactable 7 days per week up until about 9pm.

 

This is the best advice on here! In fact contact local councillor plus head of council. Do a quick Google search. Phone and email them, both of them!

 

They fixed it for me in 25 minutes. Even if it doesn't work , you have nothing to lose.

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I have requested help from Canterbury Councillors and their CEO but I now need to send a follow up email as Rundles have written to me again.

 

I wrote to Rundles asking to set up the arrangement again but they emailed me saying no and that only full payment would be acceptable.

 

The enforcement agent has written today demanding full payment of approx £3k within 7 days or he will instigate:

 

- bankruptcy

- charging order

- committal to prison

 

I think he's making this personal because I muttered 'fat bastard' after being goaded for about 10 mins on the doorstep.

I just cannot believe this is happening.

I don't know who to turn to.

I will try step change but I reckon they won't help because I have no spare cash hardly, and CAB won't help because they just don't.

 

I am currently writing again to the council but think I could be wasting my time.

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silly bailiff let him arm wave.

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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“I think he's making this personal because I muttered 'fat bastard' after being goaded for about 10 mins on the doorstep.”

 

Seems to me you made it personal....

 

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Having had a read back over all of this am I correct in thinking they have not listed any items or left you a Controlled Goods Agreement and they have not had access to your home?

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No items have been listed and no bailiff has been in my home.

Disgruntled, yes you are correct, I made it personal but isn't that what the bailiffs want, why they behave the way they do. I've had bailiffs on the doorstep before and don't usually get so upset, but Rundles seem to be a special breed.

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I need to clarify - Rundles have said they will consider recommending the above actions to their client. Rundles have replied to my email to say they won't reinstate the payment plan.

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Seems to me that the Bailiff is clutching at straws hoping to frighten you with his "superior" knowledge when in reality you are the one who holds the upper hand. There is not much else he can do other than hand it back to the Council - if he doesn't want to reinstate the payment plan or if he hands the case back he isn't going to get paid. For yourself I would suggest you keep all the payments you would have made while this is going on so at some stage a lump sum can be made which then makes it a little harder for the Council to go for other Enforcement action.

 

If they do go for Bankruptcy - if you own nothing they will get nothing

If they go for a Charging Order - only if you own your own place and you rent

Committal to Prison - only if you wilfullly refuse to pay which you are not

 

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I can recommend persil but If you use aerial that's your problem..silly bailiff

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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I have requested help from Canterbury Councillors and their CEO but I now need to send a follow up email as Rundles have written to me again.

 

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Phone the councillors on their mobile, phone the elected head of council (not the CEO) on their mobile, leave them a voicemail, send another email. For example the one below is slightly different but you can adapt it. This worked for me.

 

 

Dear X,

 

I wonder if you can help, hopefully I am contacting the correct person.

 

Put simply, we got behind on the Council Tax because of my wife's illness and her inability to work. She's now back working and I'm paying off an attachment of earnings at a rate of 17% of my Net Salary. I completely understand the need to pay back this sum, however it seems like another AOE will be placed on my salary for another year's bill at the same time. I'm quite happy to pay this after the current AOE is ended, but no one seems to be listening. Put simply my basic salary is only £X after tax, my rent £X. If they add this one at the same time, we will lose our home. Hopefully you can prevent this.

 

I can supply you with all details necessary if need be,

 

Kind Regards

 

 

 

Hopefully you can prevent this

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I will call the councillors tomorrow - it's a husband and wife team for the area where the flat was located. So far I've emailed both of them with an essay of what happened from start to finish and also the chief exec. I've now emailed the Head of Council. Is it ok to call them then? How will i be sure it goes to voicemail? I would freeze if any of them picked up the phone.

 

I will use your message but thinking about attachment of benefits - I would starve if they took any more off me.

 

thanks for everyone's replies which have made me feel a bit better.

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I agree with the poster above, that everything should be in an email.

 

However, you should also be speaking with / leaving a voicemail for the councillors / head of council.

 

I got through on the first attempt to the head of my council on his mobile, who was actually incredibly sympathetic, I asked him to read the email I had sent.

 

It's worth noting that I was begging the council's revenue department to take of the second AOE for a week, and explaining that I wouldn't be able to make the rent.

 

I was told that once it was on there was nothing they could do.

 

After speaking to the Head of council, it was somehow gone 25 minutes later. Do not under estimate the power these people have!

 

The councillors generally work for the good of society.

 

They know that making someone homeless, or starving is only going to cost much more in the long run either to the local authority or to the NHS and they also want your vote of course!

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If you speak to anyone, record the call.

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Have you tried a DRO = Debt relief order. Im sure you would qualify. Council tax debt can be included in this. This would certainly help your plight.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/debt-solutions/debt-relief-orders/debt-relief-orders-explained/debt-relief-orders-what-you-need-to-know/

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