CCTV monitoring of yellow box junctions

[etoc2001]

from the Salt Lake Tribune, not exactly on topic but informative nevertheless.

 

"The self-driving car, that cutting-edge creation that's supposed to lead to a world without accidents, is achieving the exact opposite right now: The vehicles have racked up a crash rate double that of those with human drivers.

 

The glitch? They obey the law all the time, without exception. This may sound like the right way to program a robot to drive a car, but good luck trying to merge onto a chaotic, jam-packed highway with traffic flying along well above the speed limit. As the accidents have piled up -- all minor scrape-ups for now -- the arguments among programmers at places like Google and Carnegie Mellon University are heating up: Should they teach the cars how to commit infractions from time to time to stay out of trouble?"

[JoeyJoeC]

Source? I thought that they were safer?

 

Couldn't find the exact page you found, but the same source also says they've had 11 collisions with over 1 million miles driving. Which works out about 1 collision for 15 years worth of human driving.

[etoc2001]

Here's the link...

 

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3336756-155/humans-hit-driverless-cars-exposing-a

The cars themselves are safer but, because they obey all the traffic rules the actual accident rate is double the norm. It's the opposite to the Docklands Light Railway in London - they have never had an accident when the computer is driving, only when a human takes control

[JoeyJoeC]

Here's the link...

 

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3336756-155/humans-hit-driverless-cars-exposing-a

The cars themselves are safer but, because they obey all the traffic rules the actual accident rate is double the norm. It's the opposite to the Docklands Light Railway in London - they have never had an accident when the computer is driving, only when a human takes control

 

Sounds like all of the crashes were the fault of the other cars driver.

 

For example, over here, you have the yellow box junctions, the correct way to use them is not to enter them what so ever until your exit is clear. Thus, only 1 car is allowed to use it at a time. However, people do always enter them, so they wouldn't expect the person in front to suddenly stop there.

[etoc2001]

Agreed

[etoc2001]

Found an amusing little item from Transport for London

 

https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/road-tips?cid=fs235

 

In the video they have everybody using a yellow box junction in the 'normal way' ie not waiting for the car in front to fully clear before entering and they have an idealised computer animated version with low traffic and everybody leeping exactly to the rules...

[JoeyJoeC]

Found an amusing little item from Transport for London

 

https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/road-tips?cid=fs235

 

In the video they have everybody using a yellow box junction in the 'normal way' ie not waiting for the car in front to fully clear before entering and they have an idealised computer animated version with low traffic and everybody leeping exactly to the rules...

 

The generated video doesn't show what you're supposed to do if the car in front is within the box but is still moving, although I guess you're supposed to give enough space between you and the car in front that you won't both be in it at the same time, although what do you do in large box junctions?

 

Actually, even the video clip doesn't show this happening either.

 

The rule is not to enter it if your exit isn't clear. Does this mean that you should also have a clear path to the exit?

 

I added the below comment to the video, I don't expect a reply.

 

This doesn't explain what you should do if your exit is clear, but the path to the exit is not. For example, if you're behind a car, and you approach the box junction while the car in front is still on the box junction, should you come to a stop until the car in front has crossed? Or is it safe to be within the box junction at the same time as another car assuming that you will both be able to exit the junction without stopping? Is the "exit" referred to as a destination or the journey?

[etoc2001]

Good point, please advise if they do reply. I just thought that it was ironic that even TfL who put half the YCB's in London out there can't show one being 100% complied with...[bad grammer I know]