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    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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    • Your topic title was altered last June 23 by the owner of this forum in the interests of the forum Anyway well done on your result and concluding your topic, title updated.   Andy   .
    • So what    Why ? Consent Order/ Confidentiality ? This would be be invaluable to followers of your topic.  
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Which brings right back to the main question has an EA the LEGAL right to diagnose a vulnerable person?

 

I will answer this again for you though, since it is relavant to this thread, and you can relay this back to your puppet masters.

 

Eas do not need to be able to diagnose anyone, their job is to collect the debt. This is what some people do not understand. When the debtor claims vulnerability or exemption or third party ownership. It is for them to prove their assertions, the bailiff is legally required to recover goods or the money owed that is all.

 

If you wish to take advantage of any of the protections and temporarily halt enforcment, you must show that they apply.

 

The bailiffs only duty in regards to vulnerability is that they are required to be able to recognise signs and indication and evaluate the proof presented, they do not have to investigate based on some claim or other. At this stage the requirement for providing proof rests with the debtor.

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What do you mean by this? I will answer this again for you though, since it is relavant to this thread, and you can relay this back to your puppet masters.

 

Whom is my puppet master? Prey tell! Finally please use autocorrect as your spelling is wrong....

 

 

FYI I am a single minded person and able to make my own posts I do not need any assistance from 3rd parties unlike you....

 

 

Again your need to be spiteful shows how little you think of your fellow humans and proves just how nasty you really are....

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Finally your observations are incorrect the proof goes to the LA as they are ultimately responsible if things go pear shaped.... The EA has NO legal right to sensitive medical information.

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If I say pretty please, will you two knock the bickering off?

 

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I am trying to let this poster know in the best way I can that what I have posted can be read as either way this is a huge problem with legislation. As far as enforcement goes the EA can take a debtors proof with a pinch of salt. A point in question is with NOMINAL training the EA cannot fully understand what the document/s actually mean. This is why I have stated that the proof should go to the LA.

 

 

The reason for my passion on this subject is because it COULD affect me, although at this time it does not. I would hate to see anyone misread my condition and act in an inappropriate manner as this could have dire consequences. I for one hope that the EA if attending took this in to account. I do live in the community but have little or no support. I have asked for this numerous times but always fall through the gaps. Is this my fault? No it just happens.

 

 

Many people are vulnerable and do need help. This help is not always forthcoming. These are the people that I want to see get the help that is needed. If it takes the views of an EA then at least someone has taken some notice. The EA could be what is needed to get help that someone needs. The law is clear but as we all know it is sometimes not right....

 

 

TBH I would hate to be an EA as their job in some situations must be very difficult.....

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What do you mean by this? I will answer this again for you though, since it is relavant to this thread, and you can relay this back to your puppet masters.

 

Whom is my puppet master? Prey tell! Finally please use autocorrect as your spelling is wrong....

 

 

FYI I am a single minded person and able to make my own posts I do not need any assistance from 3rd parties unlike you....

 

 

Again your need to be spiteful shows how little you think of your fellow humans and proves just how nasty you really are....

 

MM i have no view on he character of my " fellow humans", in the main on here because I do not know them, however i do know about the issues. As for the spell checker, that , in this case was the source of the error.

That wasn't a spiteful remark was it, nah couldn't be. :)

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Finally your observations are incorrect the proof goes to the LA as they are ultimately responsible if things go pear shaped.... The EA has NO legal right to sensitive medical information.

 

MM You failed to understand, the EA are not trying to prove the vulnerability of the debtor, it is the debtor who needs to disclose and prove his vulnerability.

The bailiff is quite happy not to see any proof, as he is then justified in enforcing if the debtor does not comply.

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If I say pretty please, will you two knock the bickering off?

 

It is far easier to agree to disagree.

 

If you look back SF it was not I who started with the confrontational stuff, however i will ignore future posts, if you wish. It would be a shame however to see this thread go off topic like so many others.

Yes, in anticipation of your reply , i will leave that to the site team :)

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