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    • firstly , they are not a Debt collector [never confuse the two - a DCA chasing consumer credit debt is totally powerless and have ZERO legal powers to do or take anything - they have no more legal powers than you or I do ] these will be bailiffs and do they have legal powers.   However, the good bit is that unlike what you might have seen on TV, for a council CTAX liability order [please confirm there is or NOT a CCJ registered check your creit file] there is NO right of forced entry. The bottom line is, bar all the arm waving, is, that if you simply totally ignore them, they will eventually go away.   Now what they can do is two fold on CTAX. basically add fees to a set limit.   the first is a notice of enforcement letter. this comes with a fee of £75 and gives you 7 days to set up some sort of payment plan.   the second is an actual visit, where by a further fee of £235, whereby the fees are now £310 , the maximum they can ever add to the CTAX bill. this is typically accompanied by a threat to removed goods, it's cleverly worded or 'explained' to make you 'think' they can waltz in any take anything they like. THEY CANNOT unless YOU let them in. which you don't, nor leave doors unlocked as they can then enter through what is called 'peaceful entry'.   in real term, the seizure of goods is limited to stuff outside like cars YOU might own that are not behind locked gates.   so i'm not too sure what stage you are at  so please clarify. the name of the bailiff company. how much you now owe the county council the CTAX is owed too.   if you have any/all paperwork please scan it to PDF  after redaction - read our upload guide]   one last point. they don't keep coming around they don't keep ringing. neither of those gander them anymore money so they don't bother.   dx      
    • Hi Everybody I moved into my parents house quite recently. My mam is aged and extremely ill (it's just me and her living in the house) and I moved from the North to the South of England to take care of her.   Now I've got a CCJ against me for unpaid Council tax from when I was living in the North and a debt collector has just showed up at the door. Now I don't have the money to pay the entire amount straight away. But I'm willing to try and enter in some kind of payment plan and gradually pay down the debt. However my main concern is that they don't keep coming around and phoning the house threatening and harassing my mam over her sons debt.   However the guy at the door was threatening to seize goods and have them sold at public auction. Getting bailiffs to break in etc.   When I told him that I've nothing of any real value he said he could just take whatever was in the house. Something about if she couldn't prove whatever was hers then they could just take whatever (I'm not 100% this but I think something to this affect).   He left me a "Notification of Enforcement agent visit" sheet of paper.   From the first paragraph it says:   "As an enforcement agent I've attended your premises today with the intention of taking control of your goods in accordance with the taking control of goods (fees) regulations 2014. At this time your goods are bound. You cannot remove, sell or otherwise dispose of them"   Thus I'd appreciate any advice that readers my be able to offer. Does anyone know the law regarding "seizing assets" when the debtor is not the homeowner/tenant?   tia Bear
    • I should add I only got the CCA response last week after waiting nearly a month over the prescribed time limits to respond. PM
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Hello,

at my wits end with this,

 

i sold a car 18th AUG 2014

 

the new owner went into a bus lane in Glasgow city centre on 12th SEPT 2014.

 

The council contacted DVLA one week after and they provided them with my details, because their system was still showing me as the registered keeper.

 

For over a year now and i have been fighting Glasgow city council and stirling park(debt recovery) over this mistake,

 

i have provided DVLA headed documents to show that i wasnt the registered keeper at the time of the contravention yet they STILL chasing me for the debt.

 

They have no right chasing me for money that i ain't liable for as far as iam aware??:|

 

Can someone please help, so i can get these people off my back?

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The dca can be ignored

They are not baillifs

And have no such legal powers

 

Let then pass it back to the council

 

Dx

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Its got to the point where the letter today says they have sent out sheriff officers to look for assets to be sold at auction (my car that i sold AUG 2014),

 

they claim they are going to court to get access to my bank account.

 

above all its the constant letters and phone calls i want to stop..

 

.. is there a template letter i could sent them that would be enough for them to realise that iam not been bullied into paying a debt thats not mine?

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Short and is no

 

And read the dca letters carefully

They don't say will anywhere

 

Only the council can do those things

 

Have you written to the enforcement dept

And copied them the dvla letter?

 

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Instruct your local MP to get a grip of the council, and cc in all of your local councillors too.

 

Tell the LA, that they should issue court summons this week if they're so confident on winning when you have provided them with the evidence that you're not responsible, councils really are dumb.


Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Yup sent DCA and Council the documents, there response is that because i never appealed within 28 days then i'am liable for the debt :roll: i wasn't in the country during the appeal period so i was none the wiser.

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It looks to me like this was posted correctly in the DCA section of the site, but has been moved to Parking and Traffic Offences. It's a DCA issue and the best advice would be got from there.

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Ignore the DCA completely, deal direct with the LA.

 

And to reiterate IGNORE the tin pot powerless DCA, they can do exactly nothing!

 

Send the clueless clowns the telephone harassment letter,

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?387367-Harassment-by-Telephone-**Update-21st-April-2014**

 

And then IGNORE them.

 

Keep a diary of events regarding their harassment, and start the LA's complaints procedure, and use the harassment by their chosen third party clown outfit against them, they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their chosen third parties.

 

And if you have this

they claim they are going to court to get access to my bank account.
in writing, then a complaint regarding that blatant untruth should be made to the FCA also.
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Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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I wasn't sure if MPs would be interested in debt or legal issues, sorry for the naivety regarding this situation

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I wasn't sure if MPs would be interested in debt or legal issues, sorry for the naivety regarding this situation

 

Your MP is there to do what we ask of them. They will no doubt palm it off onto the councillors but they need to be informed of what is going on in their constituents lives, in order they can at some point in the next millennium, bring about change.

 

And start your LA's complaints procedure, this is wrong on every level and as usual LA's are notoriously lethargic about changing.


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Why didn't you just use the proper appeal process and go to the adjudication service?

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see #1


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As above i wasn't in the country during their 28 day appeals window and after that they are not interested.

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Why didn't you just use the proper appeal process and go to the adjudication service?

 

As above i wasn't in the country during their 28 day appeals window and after that they are not interested.

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Then technically you do owe the money, however harsh that may seem.

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Except technically he doesnt because the vehicle was not registered in the OP's name and as such the PCN should never have been issued to him. The council is wrong and they know it. But like almost all councils, they see the public as an anonymous statistic and think they can ignore and theyll pay up.


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As has been advised, ignore the tin pot powerless dca, and start the LA's lethargic complaints procedure, email and writing ONLY.

 

If you write to them then obtain ''proof of posting'' which is free from the PO counter.

 

You can find your local MP's details and email them using https://www.writetothem.com/


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Except technically he doesnt because the vehicle was not registered in the OP's name and as such the PCN should never have been issued to him. The council is wrong and they know it. But like almost all councils, they see the public as an anonymous statistic and think they can ignore and theyll pay up.

 

The PCN was issued to the person they correctly (based on DVLA info) believed to be the owner the person who the PCN was served on then has 28 days to dispute the claim which he failed to do.

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From the Ops info, dvla provided documents to the council to say the op wasn't the owner/keeper of the vehicle. Council is at fault here and the pcn should have been cancelled upon receipt of the info. They didn't cancel it, and they kept chasing the op.

 

Again, fully the councils fault


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Then technically you do owe the money, however harsh that may seem.

 

with that logic, what contract binds me to there terms?

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The PCN was issued to the person they correctly (based on DVLA info) believed to be the owner the person who the PCN was served on then has 28 days to dispute the claim which he failed to do.

 

does this mean i can take action on the DVLA for breach of data protection?

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As has been advised, ignore the tin pot powerless dca, and start the LA's lethargic complaints procedure, email and writing ONLY.

 

If you write to them then obtain ''proof of posting'' which is free from the PO counter.

 

You can find your local MP's details and email them using

 

ty for the advice i will be following this up tomorrow morning

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Good idea!!

 

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From the Ops info, dvla provided documents to the council to say the op wasn't the owner/keeper of the vehicle. Council is at fault here and the pcn should have been cancelled upon receipt of the info. They didn't cancel it, and they kept chasing the op.

 

Again, fully the councils fault

 

So if you received a PCN and the Council missed a legal deadline would you still feel it only right you paid it? The timescales apply to both parties you cannot just cherry pick which regulations you think are fair!

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Why isn't this on the DCA forum? The OP seems to think the registered keeper of a vehicle is the owner, and is seeking some magic letter to send out.

 

Advice so far ranges from ignoring the DCA, to contacing an MP, to sending a telephone harassment letter, to lodging a complaint etc.

 

If he's going to get proper advice, it needs to be on the correct forum.

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