NCP PCN - Asda, Cardiff Bay - DCBL DCA sending out letter with enforcement fees on them!

[silverfox1961]

They were approved for a full licence in May 2013 and their next maintenance payment isn't due until 2018 so it must have applied for full permission before then

 

The old OFT database is still active although not updated.

[IDR car]

iv sent off my templete and letters with the MOJ logo on them

[caledfwlch]

Do the Parking Signs state that Penalty charges may be transferred to third party for debt collection?

 

Because surely, the parking companies are on a sticky wicket otherwise, passing private data on without authorisation from the debtor, its not like DCA's collecting bank debts for example, since the Debtor will have signed an agreement which will have included the fact that debts could be sent to third parties.

[dx100uk]

I hope they do say penalty charges....

 

 

dx

[brassnecked]

Do the Parking Signs state that Penalty charges may be transferred to third party for debt collection?

 

Because surely, the parking companies are on a sticky wicket otherwise, passing private data on without authorisation from the debtor, its not like DCA's collecting bank debts for example, since the Debtor will have signed an agreement which will have included the fact that debts could be sent to third parties.

 

Need someone to post up one of the signs in the Car Parks patrolled by these fleecers, to see T & C's

[ericsbrother]

If you read the DPA it allows the data controller or processor to pass on the details for debt recovery or the like.

 

Now where it COULD go wrong for these muppest is where they are chasing the keeper of a vehicle

when they havent determined any liability under the PoFA that allows them to do so

 

NGP dont use PoFA in their claims of breach of contract to motorists

and generally they cant as their protocols are not compliant.

 

That is something to shove down their throats if possible but

 

I very much doubt if anyone will get to court to stick it to them

 

so it is back to a few more letters to the MoJ and the ICO about attempted fraud,

 

unlawful processing of data etc. which will be carefully ignored

[IDR car]

OMG i would not want these parasites dealing with my credit card bill as iv seen what they are like with a parking ticket ......

[stubburn]

Hi. I have been reading this thread with interest

 

My wife has also been receiveing letters from a result of Parking in ASDA Leckwith Cardiff.

 

Friday she recieved a letter "Notice of Debt transfere" from dcbl. for £160.

 

This has gone down from the previous letters by £30 from Wright Hassle Solicitors.

 

I have today contacted Cardiff Trading Standards and put through to the Advise Centre.

 

I discussed the amateur forms and requests to them, (regarding parking in disable bay.)

 

Their advice was that it was Lawfull and I had to Pay ?.

 

Now I am at a loss what to do. ?

[IDR car]

contact the advice center again and ask them to send it to you in writing. as it shows on this site that they are NOT lawful .and then i contact the manager of the trading standards and ask why they are telling ppl they have to pay .

 

read the thread and there is plenty of advice ..

im sure there are other guys on here will tell you a lot more than i can.(as im still worried ill start getting these new letters too )

[stubburn]

Thanks,

I have been given a Ref No. by them so it should be easy to follow up.

 

I have been trying again & again to get through on the phone they must be busy today.

 

It took ages earlier, I will try tomorrow.

 

Just to clarify a few things..........

 

When the first letter arrived (by the way, I still have all documentation )

 

We have been receiving PPi, India phone calls, computer [problem]mers and [problem] mail constantly since donating on the street and had to change the phones to block them.......

 

.... SO, with that going on and the fact that the letter was so amateur in its appearance.

 

As described by a printer on this thread.

I told my wife to ignore it.

 

Then the WRIGHT HASSALL letters started,

I still thought it to be a [problem].

ie "Right Hastle" !!!

 

Then lastly the dcbi letter came and again poor copy which made me think of a made up form.

My wife then became frightened and I found this site which had exactly the same problem as myself .

 

All the time I had these doubts and to be honest I should have done more but with what we had contended with let it go

 

So there is blame on me somewhere.

 

Sorry to go on but now you have the full facts.

 

Thanks again. Rob

[IDR car]

what was the ticket for ..and when

[stubburn]

The date of notice was 24th March 2015 and for parking in disabled bay of Asda Leckwith Cardiff.

of which my wife was entitled as it is where she takes her 98 year mother shopping once every week

 

she cannot remember if she put the badge in the window or left it on the seat as her mother is very frail

and has just gone into care home.

 

So to be honest she always displays but there have been occasions when she has left it on the seat

because of the situation with her mother.

[IDR car]

the guy who gives out the ticket wont looking the car .

 

 

as he stands about 10 ft away and if he cant see it then you get a ticket ..

. as my badge was on the lower dash (my car has two bash boards)

and as it was not on the top one he gave me a ticket

 

 

..i seen him take the photo of the car as i was walking back top the car with the ticket on the windscreen .

 

 

. then the photo you see on there site the ticket is missing ...???

as i taken the ticket off the car screen and went back in to asdas (that was the last shop i was in ) with my blue badge .

. so im guessing he went back to the car and taken it again this time the car had no badge ....

 

so if its on the seat he not going to care he wants his commission from the ticket ...

 

 

......even tho they tell you they dont get any ..BS do they

[brassnecked]

Send them a picture of the BB, and remind them that even if not displaying, fact yoU have badge is sufficient and they are breaching the Equalities Act 2010 as enforcing the ticket is probably failing to make a Reasonable Adjustment of allowing use of the bay under the Act .

 

BB is not mandatory on private land, so they will rely on small print to impose a charge for unbadged.

 

Needs a challenge to these stores and the parasite PPC under the Equalities Act.

[stubburn]

Hi All,

 

My wife is in a panick now because I have come on here asking advice

having been told by the Council to pay the fine.

 

She thinks we should just pay up to let it go away

 

she does not want to go to Court or get put on debt list etc.

 

I have not let her contact them, as once you do the door is wide open for them to take advantage.

 

A straight and honest request to you out there do you think we should give in to these parasites.

[dx100uk]

it is not a fine

cant see why the council are stating pay it.

 

 

If this was march 2015 DCBL are purely willy waving

 

 

let it run.

 

 

dx

[IDR car]

my ticket is June 2014 .so they just string it out .

 

 

its not for the council to say as its nothing to do with them ..

 

 

... you have to pay the council or police tickets UNLESS they are wrong

..but private land tickets no

 

 

... they just keep bulling you to pay .

 

 

so id say no dont pay it like many on here with say the same...

 

 

.. they are just a bunch of [problem]mers hoping some one will cave in and pay .

 

 

. as if you pay it £160 that will pay for hundreds of other letters to other ppl .

 

 

. as there are many out there i guess who will pay straight away as they will think they have to ...

[javawar88]

Just and update to the DCBL letters that I receive before Christmas, it has all when dead since.

 

I agree with everyone, these letters are completely illegal.

 

Thanks to this group, it saved me at least 500 pounds.

[silverfox1961]

As predicted!

Please keep an eye on your post though as this may not be over.

NGP could still take further action if they suddenly have a brain freeze,

[Ahew1910]

Hi,

 

I have read through this thread and have received a letter from dcbl in the last few weeks. It is no longer called notice of enforcement, it's now a notice of debt recovery (1st letter). I received it from parking in a northern parking services car park outside of a hotel where you needed a permit- I received the ticket y the time I parked up, checked in and received my permit.

 

I cannot see the MoJ logo but on the reverse side of the letter, it states the case is not subject to high court or bailiff action.

 

Any advice appreciated.

[silverfox1961]

Hi and welcome to CAG

 

I do feel you should start a new thread as you will get missed otherwise.

 

When you do, please read this thread and answer accordingly

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?462118-Have-you-received-a-Parking-Ticket&p=4883055&viewfull=1#post4883055

[Homer67]

So DCBL are bottom feeding now despite their infamy in the Can't Pay We'll Take It Away rubbish on TV.

 

If they are acting as debt collectors and from the statement on their paperwork it seems they are you can ignore them and they have no powers.

 

Provide the info on the Private Parking Charge that you received though, it may show that the PPC cannot chase you as the registered keeper.

[HCEOs]

It would be interesting to know which comany they are trading as in this instance as they have 2 Limited companies (see below).

 

I would imagine it would be DCBL but the FCA are usually pretty hot on bailiff/HCEOs having anything enforcement related printed on literature that is sent to debtors. The fact that DCBL seem to use headed paper with the references to Bailiff, High Court Enforcement, Can't Pay We'll Take it Away, Channel 5 and The MoJ is pretty surprising. Having siad that they seem perfectly happy to wear fake Police outfits and flout the law on evictions./enforcement.

 

Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd trading as DCBL

(Postcode: CW8 4EE)

Consumer Credit Interim No. 652997 (Previously IP registered)

FCA Licence No: 702566

Status: Authorised

 

Direct Collections Limited

(Postcode: CW8 4EE)

Consumer Credit Interim No. 512588

Status: Lapsed