@argoshelpers Excel/BW claimform - PCN Argos Peel Centre Stockport June 2015

[Monty_zr]

Hi everyone,

 

I parked my car at the Peel Centre in Stockport to pickup an item which was reserved for me in Argos.

Its my first visit at the Peel Centre and no doubt will be the last.

 

 

Upon arrival there were no visible signs or parking machines around the perimeter so I gathered the parking was free.

I went to the store to pickup the item but was told it was reserved by their other store just around the corner.

 

 

The staff asked if I parked my car here, I replied yes

and so she advised me to leave the vehicle here and its only a 5 minute walk.

I took her advice but didn't return until an hour later after experiencing a small queue at the store

and receiving a phone call from a friend.

 

 

When I returned back, there was no ticket on my windscreen and so I left the Peel Centre.

12 days later I received a PCN from Excel parking via post demanding payment of £60 within 14 days.

 

I contacted Argos and asked to speak to the store manager

but was told there was nothing could be done which was disappointing.

 

 

Since then, following the advice I received from my friends after the experience they've had from other parking companies,

I continued to ignore all letters and correspondence relating to Excel.

 

 

Currently I'm at the stage in which I received a letter from Wright Hassall solicitors

demanding final payment of £180 within 14 days

or else a CCJ will be imposed upon me which will have impact on future loans and credit rating.

 

I have searched a lot of forums relating to this matter and the majority of the people on here

suggest to keep ignoring them since Wright Hassall has no grounds to issue a CCJ

since their client is ZZPS Ltd who are debt collectors and not Excel Parking.

 

Although it might sound crazy but do I continue to ignore Wright Hassall if this is the case?

 

Any advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

[armadillo71]

Short answer - Yes.

 

 

Who do you think can issue a County Court Judgement ?

[Monty_zr]

Thank you for your reply.

[ericsbrother]

I bet their letter doesnt say they will impose anything

but threatens you with what might happen if you ignore them.

 

 

Words are important in these matters so read it agin.

As said, they are solicitors acting as debt collectors and rely on their letterhead to put fear into you

and persuade you to pay up.

 

 

Have you asked yourself why the supposed debt has leapt up to £180?

Answer is because they think that if you are going to apy you will apy almost anything that isnt stupidy high

so they ask for jsut under £200 as most people will cough.

 

 

Some debt collectors in the past have asked for up to £700

and when challenged they just hide under a rock.

 

 

the cowboy clampers havent gone away, jsut changed their hats.

 

If you can remember the date of the event or still have the original demand

we may be able to put this to bed fairly quickly.

[Monty_zr]

Finally, I managed to collate all the letters from Excel, ZZPS and Wright Hassall and Yes, you are correct, (sorry) they are threatening me with CCJ if I continue to ignore them.

 

The date of the event was middle of June 2015.

 

The total balance went from £100 which was originally issued by Excel to £150 when the matter was passed onto ZZPS. A second letter from ZZPS demanded this amount to be paid otherwise they will pass onto their solicitors and the total balance would increase by £25.

 

Now, surely the total balance would equate to £175 but no, no, no. When I received the following letter from Wright Hassall, they demanded payment of £180!! So where on earth has the additional £5 come from??? There was no explanation on the letter whatsoever.

[armadillo71]

The date of the event was middle of June 2015.*

 

What ericsbrother was alluding to was how many days, from the date of the event , to when the NTK hit your doomat? Exactly please.

[Monty_zr]

What ericsbrother was alluding to was how many days, from the date of the event , to when the NTK hit your doomat? Exactly please.

 

Unfortunately I couldn't give you an answer sorry. I was away on holiday until I got back to find a letter from Excel. I presume there is no way of finding out when the letter has arrived at my door?

[ericsbrother]

can you post up the original notice to keeper so we can pick holes in it? There is every liklihood it doesnt comply with the requirements for keeper liability anyway. that would mean you wouldnt have to argue about the content or meaning of the signage that made the contract with the driver.

[Monty_zr]

Thank you all for your help and advice but I've managed to receive free legal advice from a friend of a friend who is a solicitor.

[honeybee13]

Please let us know how you get on, Monty. Does this solicitor have experience of parking companies?

 

HB

[armadillo71]

As above^^.

Please keep us updated on your actions, as we may all learn something of benefit.

[Monty_zr]

Hi everyone,

 

Can anyone tell me if they have received an official CCJ Claim form from Northampton County Court?

 

The reason being that I've just received a CCJ Claim form for an alleged unpaid parking ticket dated last year.

 

The form appears to be a photocopy (black & white) but I believe it should be a blue form?

 

The stamp illustrating the crown doesn't appear to be an official stamp but copied.

 

I would like to know whether I've received an official CCJ form and would appreciate if anyone can help.

 

No doubt I will have to treat this matter very seriously in case its genuine and will endeavour to pursue the case.

 

Many thanks

[dx100uk]

BW legal I take it?

 

 

if you have a claim number and a password at the end of the info box then yes

 

 

upload

[Monty_zr]

Yes, surprise surprise its from BW legal. Ok thanks. I will pursue it further.

 

 

BW legal I take it?

 

 

if you have a claim number and a password at the end of the info box then yes

 

 

upload

[dx100uk]

VCS as well or excel?

 

tell us the details using this :

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?465231-.Received-a-Court-Claim-From-A-Private-parking-Speculative-invoice-How-To-Deal-With-It-HERE***(9-Viewing)-nbsp

[dx100uk]

aha

threads merged.

peel centre

lots of thread here already

[ericsbrother]

please get your terminology correct, have you received a N1 claim form or something else? Probably it is that so you have to follow the procedures to acknowledge, deny and defend

[dx100uk]

so what happened with this supposed court claim then?

please update us..

[Monty_zr]

Hi,

 

I'm expected to be in court next week to defend my case against Excel Parking/BW legal due to lack of signs at the Peel Centre in Stockport.

 

 

The ticket was issued in June 2015.

 

 

Several months later I came back to gather some photos as evidence only to discover that new signs have been put in place and now designated everywhere unlike before.

 

 

Unfortunately the evidence I have so far would be insufficient to convince the judge and therefore would rely on information from anyone who can provide me details when the signs were renewed.

 

 

I would appreciate if anyone has real photo evidence of the parking facility outside Argos at the Peel centre to illustrate the lack of signs.

 

Thanks.

[dx100uk]

old and new threads merged

there are numerous thread here on peel centre with old photos

and on the prankster site.

[Monty_zr]

Sorry for the late reply... Ive been so busy.

 

I've completed the claim form and submitted my defence to the County Court. I have been offered mediation to resolve the matter but I've decided to take it through court. I will do my best to convince the judge and have some useful information to rely on and hopefully put this matter to rest.

 

so what happened with this supposed court claim then?

please update us..

 

Thanks...

 

 

old and new threads merged

there are numerous thread here on peel centre with old photos

and on the prankster site.