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"The national interest must come ahead of human rights" David Cameron.


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"The national interest must come ahead of human rights" David Cameron.

 

But is not human rights central to our national interest?

 

Every year the British Government sell £4 billion in arms to one of the worlds worst human rights abusers, Saudi Arabia. Currently a 17 year old Saudi male faces public beheading followed by crucifixion because he has been found guilty of being involved in sedition in taking part in a human rights riot.

David Cameron's Government cut a secret deal with Saudi Arabia last month to be elected onto the United Nations 'Human Rights Council'.

 

Saudi Arabia publicly beheaded over 60 of it's own citizens last year year, flogging, up to 1000 lashes at a time, is common. Woman under penalty of imprisonment are not allowed to drive.

 

The justification for David Cameron in turning a blind eye to these and other human rights abuses is 'We share valuable intelligence with them of people who want to harm both regimes'.

 

As well as Saudi Arabia Britain has just completed trade deals with one of the most prolific Human Rights Abusers. That being China.

 

An example wil be live organ donation/ harvesting from their prison population. ( Falun Gong) The response from the Chinese Government states that the prisoners agree to it. And the UK Government accepts that response

 

What can be more harmful to our reputation on human rights when we ignore them in the name of national security that ultimately undermines our commitment to uphold human rights? No wonder the Tories are so keen to try and dump the European Convention of Human Rights as they have no respect of them.

 

The irony in all of this is that it was a Tory who was instrumental in conceiving the ECHR

 

That being Winston Churchil

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You have to learn the real meaning of Tory Phrases and words!

 

When that idiot Cameron says "National Interest" what he means is "a few of my corporate buddies and business partners"

 

Nooooooooooooooooooooo! My Paymasters.

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The irony in all of this is that it was a Tory who was instrumental in conceiving the ECHR

 

That being Winston Churchil

 

A Tory AND a Liberal :D

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He was referring to this country, not some middle east one.

 

The blocking of a terrorist from extradiction costing the country millions.

 

What the Saudi Arabians do in their country is their business, no outside influence will change them. But that is all by the by as I said, he was referring to 'this' country.

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The issue of so called alleged terrorists using the Human Rights Act to block extradition is another Myth perpetrated by the Tory party and right wing press

 

The UK Government has the option on deciding if matters are in contravention of the act through the EU doctrine:

 

Margin of Appreciation

 

The ECtHR only maintains a supervisory role over member states,

A typical example will be the issue of prisoners and voting where the doctrine was used

 

The only thing that has been stopping the extrodition of so called terrorists are our own courts and immigration appeals tribunals. The Home Office has previously played fast and loose with our own statutory legislation

 

We can never forget the infamous Thressa May immigrant black cat:lol:

 

She lied to the whole country at that party conference and blamed the person who wrote her speech without checking the facts

 

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Yes and so it should

 

If a suspect is deported back to a country known for human rights violatons then we would be as bad as that country and complicit who permit torture

 

And isis is not a signatory to any convention as it is not officially recognised

 

The japanese used the same excuse during the second world war to justify their inhumane treatment

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Human rights court blocks extradition of UK-based terror suspect to US

 

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/apr/16/human-rights-extradition-terror-suspect

 

I think we should let isis know - Article 3 of the European convention on human rights prohibits inhuman or degrading treatment

 

ISIS is a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights? Who'd a thunk it?

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Makes you wonder whether Camerons' EU 'IN' stance is a sham as it is in contradiction to so many of the Tory policies.

 

Only rationale is that Camerons 'in' is dependent on impossible changes to the whole cornerstone of the EU, and he is flying under a false flag.

 

Dont forget the Scots and Irish agreements are also tied to this (ECHR), especially the good friday agreement.

 

 

Why does EVERYONE need it?

It prevents the higher courts being simply a tool of whoever is in political power.

 

I think most of us would like to be able to kick radical clerics preaching Jihad out of the country, but allowing the removal of basic human rights which all civilised people believe in, just to do that, is letting those who hate us win a war by their simply losing a battle.

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As true in 1776 as it is in 2015

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

Could be worse - could be Farage

Sergei Lavrov:  “an ally” 

"echoing Putin's vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine."

 

 

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