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Right of Entry sucessfully contested 3 times

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for the last 18 months I have had an ongoing battle with my electricity/gas supplier who have applied 3 times for a Right of Entry.


Each time I have attended the magistrates court to contest the application and on two occasions it was refused and on one withdrawn


. I just wanted to say it can be done and if you present your case calmly give an overview,

a chronological history of who said/did what and when, actions you have taken,

what you would like to happen and a conclusion,

then the magistrates, at least in my experience, seem to appreciate you bothered to turn up and came down on my side.


The three Enforcement Officers, all different, applying for the warrants at court have all been pleasant.

One was so surprised I had turned up he said he wasn't going to apply for the warrant as he knew nothing about the back ground to the the issues surrounding the warrant application, so withdrew it.


The second time, I went on the stand and the enforcement guy beforehand was actually very helpful.


The third time he was OK but had a slight whiff of bailiff attitude about him.


All three were woefully ill prepared and did not seem to have any information beyond they are there to gain a warrant.


On the three occasions I have attended,

I have been the only person with a warrant application for Right of Entry to have turned up.

From what I saw the magistrates ask some very cursory questions and rubber stamp all the warrants.


So my advice is take courage, go to the court, put your case and fight your corner even if it is just to by yourself some time.

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Obvious question


How do you know the date the energy companies are applying for the warrants at the magistrate court??


They do not exactly give you prior notice

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I have received a letter on each occasion telling me they have applied, when and where the warrant will be applied for.

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Just popping a link to your original thread, yellowcake - that way people can see what has gone before :)

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Which company please?

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Sorry to High Jack your thread.... Just food for thought !!


A right can of worms, My sisters daughter suffers from ES.. Electrostatic Sensitivity and is unable to turn the PC/TV/WiFi or any device... she is fighting the dreaded smart meter installation, seems these energy companies have a hidden agenda... keep up the good fight. :-(

Abbey Settled 3,600:cool:


Just started battle with


Virgin CC





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Nice one! Let me share my story:


I recently moved supplier, i came home from work, found a card from my new supplier asking for a meter reading. I called them up and provided this to them, with no issue. The NEXT day, I had one from my old supplier, which I ignored. The day after, the Meter Operator (MOp) banged on my door. I answered it:


Me: "Yes?"

MOp: "I'm here to read your meter"

Me: I gave my supplier the reading 2 days ago

Mop: Let me in to read your meter

Me No. You do not work for my supplier. My meter is none of your business

Mop: OK, I'll go down the road to (Network Operator) and they'll disconnect you for having an illegal supply

Me: No they wont. My payments are up to date. My supplier has an up to date reading. What makes you so sure that my supply is illegal?

Mop: Because you won't let me in

Me: That doesn't count, (Network Operator) won't disconnect me

Mop: What makes you so sure?

Me: Because I work for them. Goodbye

Mop: *goes away with his tail between his legs"




Moral - just like bailiffs, they think they can scare people into submission

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Added moral

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The whole thing is a [problem],, a Lad at work had the same issue.. he's reported his new supplier the Ombudsman over false readings.. He refused a SM.. his point was a good one, say he is away and his supply is very low, and say this information is being broadcasted and intercepted.. crooks would know when your away !! :-x

Abbey Settled 3,600:cool:


Just started battle with


Virgin CC





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