Alcholol addiction fills the goverments coffers is it not time to allow other sunbstances the same right

[trebormoinet]

About 40 of those 50 points can be attributed to someone who smokes cannabis and is off there head.

 

you dont need to smoke cannabis. All you need is the THC turned into a pill but without the affects of getting high...

 

Strangely enough tho is people who smoke illegally dont want this!!!!

 

Its just a ploy for druggies to get off there t##ts legally.

 

I'm all for research and there I compelling evidence that THC has a lot of medical uses.

 

So put it in a pill form.

 

Why not allow others the right to choose how they take Cannabis ? is it a plant, it grows naturally. Cannabis=zero deaths far safe than most foods we eat. Lets ban eating and take that in pill form to stop all the deaths each year from choking. Your argument has no foundation, have a spliff and chill.

[sgtbush]

See post above

And I must Sa you've done a wonderful job in just proving one of my statements.

I see the effects of drug use everyday, and whilst on the whole its not a problem, just like alcohol it can be a problem for some. A life changing problem.

[sgtbush]

And as for deaths which you say zero, a quick google search reveals hundreds. Here is one.

 

On 30 January 2014, the British tabloid Daily Mail published an article with the following liberally capitalized and attention-grabbing headline: Devout Christian Mother-of-Three, 31, Becomes First Woman in Britain to DIE from Cannabis Poisoning After Smoking a Joint in Bed to Help Her Sleep.

 

Based on the testimony of the pathologist who performed an autopsy on a 31-year-old woman named Gemma Moss, who was found dead next to a half-smoked marijuana joint, the Mail concluded that she “died directly from cannabis poisoning”:

 

 

A young mother of three died after she was poisoned by the cannabis she smoked to help her get to sleep. Gemma Moss, 31, was killed by the level of the drug in her blood, an inquest heard. The regular churchgoer, who was found dead in her bedroom, is thought to be the first woman in Britain known to have died directly from cannabis poisoning.

 

Her death was caused by cannabis toxicity, and a coroner recorded a verdict of death by cannabis abuse.The inquest was told that Miss Moss smoked half a joint a night to help her sleep

[honeybee13]

Could you post a link to the story please, SB?

 

 

HB

[sgtbush]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cannabis-poisoning-death/

[honeybee13]

Thank you both for the links.

 

 

 

HB

[trebormoinet]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cannabis-poisoning-death/

 

Thank you, the link proves my point it cites a single case and conclude the claim is unproven. Did you read the link or take the first result that you assumed made your point ?

[trebormoinet]

It is impossible to overdose on Cannabis, has caused zero deaths, so why are folk so scared to allow others to use it.

[trebormoinet]

Even if a single death could be proved and to date it has not ! How many people die from showering, putting on trouser in the morning, working, eating peanuts should we ban those as well.

[trebormoinet]

Here are son negitive points

 

Loss of sense of personal identity

Lowered reaction time

Increased heart rate (risk of heart attack)

Increased risk of stroke

Problems with coordination (impairing safe driving or playing sports)

Sexual problems (for males)

Up to seven times more likely to contract sexually transmitted infections

than non-users (for females) 22,32 & 33

 

LONG-TERM EFFECTS

Decline in IQ (up to 8 points if prolonged use started in adolescent age)

Poor school performance and higher chance of dropping out

Impaired thinking and ability to learn and perform complex tasks

Lower life satisfaction

Addiction (about 9% of adults and 17% of people who started smoking as teens)

Potential development of opiate abuse

Relationship problems, intimate partner violence

Antisocial behavior including stealing money or lying

Financial difficulties

Increased welfare dependence

Greater chances of being unemployed or not getting good jobs.33

 

 

Source

https://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/short-and-long-term-effects.html

 

Not sure if you aware but the source you cite is proudly sponsored by the Church of Scientology and Scientologists . Are you a Scientologist by chance? they are the masters of fud and you been fooled I am sorry to say.

[sgtbush]

Which bit of the coroners report did u miss?

I quote

Her death was caused by cannabis toxicity, and a coroner recorded a verdict of death by cannabis abuse.

[trebormoinet]

If Scientology and the daily fail guides your judgement then I would take a look at other sources .

[sgtbush]

A coroners verdict is embedded in English law and has nothing to do with the sources that publish it.

[trebormoinet]

Which bit of the coroners report did u miss?

I quote

Her death was caused by cannabis toxicity, and a coroner recorded a verdict of death by cannabis abuse.

 

From the link you posted that checks facts !

 

 

 

While higher potency of marijuana would change that math a bit, it would not change it enough for that amount of combustion and inhalation to be possible. A 2011 report on drug abuse from the UK’s National Health Service (NHS) states that there had been (at least at that time), zero documented cases of fatal overdoses from cannabis. If cannabis killed Gemma Moss, it would had to have done so through a mechanism other than direct toxicity.

[trebormoinet]

Simply put if the coroner said that he was wrong to do so.

[sgtbush]

It just goes to further support the argument of more research into the benefits of THC...

But I'm not having druggies n pot heads all of a sudden claiming illnesses to have a medical cards allowng themselves to get stoned.

 

Put into a form where you dont get high but reap the benefits that are obviously there.

MS sufferers for example

 

The coroner recorded that verdict and it stands.

[trebormoinet]

It just goes to further support the argument of more research into the benefits of THC...

But I'm not having druggies n pot heads all of a sudden claiming illnesses to have a medical cards allowng themselves to get stoned.

 

Put into a form where you dont get high but reap the benefits that are obviously there.

MS sufferers for example

druggies , pot heads ? your language is insulting to everyone who takes cannabis and generally the position most take when cornered in the debate.

[trebormoinet]

I have consumed cannabis daily recreationally and for health for 40 years it not only cures most ailments it also prevents them.

 

 

A medicine makes you healthy and happy, Cannabis do both remarkably well !

[trebormoinet]

The debate essentially boils down to, do we have a right to choose what to do with our own bodies.

[trebormoinet]

Further on in the article you posted it says this,

 

 

In our view, death from direct cannabis toxicity is unlikely, as this event is generally viewed to be medically impossible. The incidence of a heart attack as a contributing factor in the case of death that is not otherwise fully explainable is certainly a possibility, but the notion that smoking half a joint would trigger a fatal heart attack in a person who did not exhibit any existing cardiovascular disease strains credulity. Accordingly, we rank this claim as unproven.

[sgtbush]

No you dont, that's the point.

You choose to live in a democracy and that gives you the right to live in another country if you dont like the laws.

 

Yes to research. THC has many benefits but I don't think that I should be allowing druggies n potheads to be inventing illnesses so they can have a medical card like in the USA.

 

Ps I dont care if your offended with the terms druggies and potheads.

Until its made legal ( never happen in the form you want) then that's what they are.

After that ill refer to them as addicts

[trebormoinet]

Cannabis will be legalised for recreational use in the very near future the dam has been busted.

 

 

The UK is the largest supplier of medicinal cannabis in the world most MPs support the legalisation for recreational use and like all good hypocrites MPs are jumping on the populist bandwagon now the genie is out the bottle.

 

 

The police chief of Durham has said he is not interested people smoking cannabis or growing in own home for personal use.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/24/durham-police-chief-mike-barton-for-legalisation-cannabis-uk

 

 

So like it or not it is coming now real education is getting out.

 

 

The intellectual argument for legalising cannabis was won years ago, and now political argument is won. .

[sgtbush]

You fail to see I'm in agreement that THC has many medical benefits

[trebormoinet]

You fail to see I'm in agreement that THC has many medical benefits

 

 

So if you agree it has medicinal benefits then you should agree I have the right to take it as a preventative medicine rather than waiting for a specific health issue to arise that would not ordinarily arise if I had been taking my medicine.

 

 

Now that does not make sense to me ?

[trebormoinet]

I take your an alchy then ? or are you abstinent from everything ?