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    • Hi all,   Summons Info info as follows.....   Name of the Claimant ? Stonegate Pub Company Ltd Porter Tun House 500 Capability Green Luton LU1 3LS   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. Nov 19th 2020   Date of issue XX + 19 days ( 5 day for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = XX + 14 days to submit defence = XX (33 days in total) -   ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total   Deadline = 21st Dec 2020 Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim in full (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. 1.      Whilst the defendant was employed by the claimant the defendant sold goods belonging to the claimant receiving full price and purporting to account therefor but only accounting for part thereof and retaining the balance for his own benefit. 2.      The defendant has thereby (1) stolen, and/or (b) failed to account and/or (c) committed a deceit and/or (d) been unjustly enriched by the amount retained. 3.      The claimant suffered a loss from the defendants actions of £526.95 including the cost of investigation. The claimant claims interest under section 69 of the county courts act 1984 at the rate of 8% a year from 22/12/2019 to 18/11/2020 on £526.95 and also interest at the same rate up to the date of judgement or earlier payment at a daily rate of £0.23.   What is the total value of the claim? £735.91   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes, notice of civil claim   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? N/A   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? N/A   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? N/A   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. No, Claim issued by BLP   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not as such assigned, just received letters from BLP claiming to be acting on behalf.   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? N/A   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? N/A   Why did you cease payments? N/A   What was the date of your last payment? N/A   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? N/A   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? N/A   As a lot of the questions above relate to credit Ive had to N/A quite a few but everything else is answered. If it helps I can post the other two letters he received one of which is a final demand.   Lastly, does he have a right to see any evidence they claim to have against him under CPR?   Cheers, Chris  
    • I don't know where else to put this. openDemocracy have found that the Cabinet Office has a secretive 'Orwellian' unit that is deeply involved in the Freedom of Information process. Very disturbing.   https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/24/orwellian-government-unit-obstructs-freedom-of-information-says-report
    • By coincidence I've just come across this thread  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/429374-ukpcs-windscreen-pcn-parking-in-disabled-by-without-bb-scotland/#comments  Have a look at post 22.  This is if you want to go down the DVLA route.  However, as scribbled above, I would imagine that the DVLA had already registered you as owner.   I agree with Brassnecked that the solution here is to get on to the people who should have put you on a white list, especially as it's likely you'll get another present from Minster Baywatch.  
    • I like the reassuring advice I get from this site and I like to keep you in the loop as it develops   I have already wriien to the studio that sent me the contract and they replied with this   "Please liaise with CRS and their Solicitors who are dealing with this matter, They will be able to furnish you with all the details required as they have all relevant information."
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I've hidden them as you've left ref no's claim no's etc all over the place but we can see them still others cant

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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so ALL of those 2 uploads is what came with their WS as exhibits?

where is this statement showing a 2010 payment then cant see it?

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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as a total side issue - there's +£3k of PPI+int there begging.

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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I cannot see those uploads now

but there is an annual egg loan statement showing last payment as August 2010.

 

 

I've never seen this statement before and still refute the payment .

 

 

But is this a fait accompli because they can mock up these annual statements ?

 

As I've not acknowledged the debt I'm really unsure how to proceed when I go to court.

 

Can I now submit a defence of the debt being statute barred as I do not believe their statement showing last payments to be true?

 

If I retrieve a bank statement proving this will this suffice?

 

Do I submit this defence at court?

 

Or should I contact shoosmiths and say I want proof of last payment as I've evidence to the contrary?

 

Any help greatly appreciated

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you filed your def and WS months ago

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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you need to put them to strict proof of that payment....

 

 

who made it

by hat method

and when

 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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So there's no argument because my defence was filed as asking them to essentially prove it?

 

 

I cannot argue that the evidence since provided doesn't stack up?

 

Can you post up a copy of your witness statement(s)...minus any identifiable information?

 

When is your hearing date?

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Do I therefore contact Shoosmiths now and state that he evidence they provided relates to a statue barred debt and the payment they are claiming I made is false. And that I can prove this with supporting bank statements (to be provided at the hearing) over the period they cite?

 

The hearing is end of October

 

The only statement I have submitted to date is my original defence which was to prove it

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They indicated the payment was made via payplan earlier

Why not ring Payplan and ask?

 

Twill sort the SB issue

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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The last time any of these debts were acknowledged was February 2011 when a dmplink3.gif made a payment on my behalf.

 

However there is a chance that a payment could have been in Feb 2011,

but this payment like I said did not come direct from me but a dmplink3.gif so I have no record of it.

 

I have no record of these payments leaving my bank account.

They are claiming the payments came via Payplan.

When I contacted Payplan they had no records of this.

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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I meant they haven't indicated where the payment has come from in writing. That's why I'm asking do I contact Shoosmiths now and ask for proof of payment?

 

Payplan are telling me they have no record

 

What I can't get a conclusion on is do I ask for proof of payment? As I've evidence otherwise.

 

Does the fact it has PPI help a defence?

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forget the ppi

get that back via egg afterwards.

 

here is an upload of everything you've uploaded about the claim

 

there is NO EGG statement here

 

can we have it please

you say payplan could find no evidence of 'you'

have you that in writing from them?

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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I surmise they think 1 of 3 2 of 3 3 of 3 resembles some form of statement...unfortunately for them its not.:wink:

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It it strange that it says 'It was sent to you on....' rather than the original date which shows it isn't an original surely? I never received this statement

 

You could probe this by asking questions in writing.

 

Who made these payments of £3.61 ? They should be able to get the data regarding these payments, so they know where they have come from. If they were from Payplan, the dates of payments are pretty random. Have you asked Payplan for their info as to when they made payments ?

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as that's an EGG statement

why not take a punt and go ring Canadian square operations

see if they know any more info.

 

 

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Shoosmiths are saying that the statement is considered proof of payment, despite me requesting details on where the payment came from.

 

I have told them that I have proof otherwise to show payments were not made from my bank account at the time.

 

Should I be contacting the County Court to amend my initial defence to include my dispute of these payments?

 

So in effect changing my defence from 'prove it' to it is statute barred and I have not received proof otherwise.

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post 72 go ring EGG...

 

 

talk to the OC not believe some sceptical debt buyers hash job.

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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