Jeremy Corbyn 'could renationalise public assets'

[Conniff]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11741861/How-you-can-help-Jeremy-Corbyn-win-and-destroy-the-Labour-Party.html

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11817162/Jeremy-Corbyn-must-be-stopped.html

 

What a difference a MONTH makes

 

 

I'm not sure he will destroy the labour party, Ed Milliband did a wonderful job of that.

[obiter dictum]

That matters not, it is a Union and the Labour party with all it's paymaster in the Union movement ditched him, a man representing working people, something Labour pretended they were doing.

 

Most Trade Union members have now withdrawn the political levy to the labour party and the political fund.

 

I think it is about time you started living in the 21st century, not the 1970s

[Conniff]

Is not Unions that call out there members on a Bank Holiday a scab Union - it certainly looks that way to me. Bugger the people, we are greedy and don't care who we spoil holidays for.

[Conniff]

You really haven't a clue at all about anything except what you want to see. You are the sort of person that has brought this country to it's knees with the help of the labour party of course, but I suppose that's old news.

So is the sinking of the Titanic, but you won't be allowed to forget what you did.

[obiter dictum]

I am not getting into any willy waving contest with you

 

Your prejudice to anything that is contrary to this sorry excuse of a government says it all from all your previous postings

 

The only thing that is good about it is this forum is not the usual kipper echo chamber and people of different persuasions can air their views,

 

no matter what the provocation

[Conniff]

I know who the willy waver is. Look back and you have not justified one single thing you have tried to claim.

[SabreSheep]

At this point I am going to step back form the debate and observe.

 

That being said

 

From this point forward please can we only post if we are going to back up our point with some form of evidence to support your case.

 

No more willy waving.

 

And also no more "Kippers" or other terms that are or may be meant in a derogatory term. Remember, people that voted for UKIP voted for a Legitimate Party for a variety of reasons. Let us not all paint UKIP supporters or TORY or LABOUR with any one brush.

 

Stick to the facts people. If you are going to state an opinion then state why you have that opinion and upon what facts (With Source of Evidence) that your opinion relies upon.

 

I reserve the right to unapprove posts that just continue the willy waving.

[unclebulgaria67]

You would have to be very lucky to be able to wave with your willy !

 

I asked awhile back whether a sensible debate was possible. I think not !

 

There is actually a sensible article in the Daily Mail today about Corbyns policies, looking at pros and cons.

 

If capitalism in its current form has failed most people, then why not look at alternatives. Net migration increased by 330,000 in the last year and that does not include illegal immigrants. In the years ahead, that means a lot of new housing, doctors, school places, teachers etc etc, will be required. How will this be paid for ?

[obiter dictum]

The logic is more people, more jobs, more revenue through taxation, healthy economy to pay for the services.

 

But if the jobs are not there to begin with?

 

Even the majority of jobs are low paid zero hour contracts. Most people earn so little they do not pay tax, yet technically are employed

 

That has been confirmed by continuing Government Borrowing just to maintain those services

 

The figures can only be fiddled for so long, then the bubble has to burst.

[Conniff]

You continually say this is fiddled and that is fiddled, then show us the real figures and where you get them from ??

[obiter dictum]

Well the unemployment rate does not include those on ESA, sanctioned, or under one of these Government workplace providers

 

More people in work is a direct result of official non EU Migration, Up 330,00 this year, not any drop in the unemployment figures

 

The Government borrows money from insurance companies etc via Guilt's and Bonds. These give a guaranteed return of 3% per year

 

Even the sell off with Royal Mail with a loss of Three billion could not pay these bonds. Now the Government are selling off RBS with a projected loss of 1-2 billion to the tax payer

 

This Government cannot keep on borrowing. We need real jobs with a living wage. That way the treasury will increase through direct and indirect taxation

[determindator]

You really haven't a clue at all about anything except what you want to see. You are the sort of person that has brought this country to it's knees with the help of the labour party of course, but I suppose that's old news.

So is the sinking of the Titanic, but you won't be allowed to forget what you did.

 

Quote by Daily Mail

 

'Did you know? The FTSE 100's biggest one-day fall was on October 20th 1987, in the wake of Black Monday. It plummeted 12.2pc'

[unclebulgaria67]

And the ERM mess where interest rates hit 15%, causing hundreds of thousands of homes to be repossesed.

 

The Tories have caused more damage to the UK, than Labour ever did. The 07/08 crash was partly the responsibility of the Thatcher government that encouraged casino Banking.

 

I try to be neutral on this, but sometimes the blue rinse brigade try to re-write history.

[estellyn]

The logic is more people, more jobs, more revenue through taxation, healthy economy to pay for the services.

 

But if the jobs are not there to begin with?

 

Even the majority of jobs are low paid zero hour contracts. Most people earn so little they do not pay tax, yet technically are employed

 

That has been confirmed by continuing Government Borrowing just to maintain those services

 

The figures can only be fiddled for so long, then the bubble has to burst.

 

Please, figures with a link, I would like to be able to use those figures myself.

[obiter dictum]

ONS, CBI, and HM Treasury

 

The simple fact is that current taxation is not keeping pace with expenditure

 

Take Vodafone, Google and the high street coffee houses

 

They pay zero corporation tax.

 

This costs the UK Treasury 80 Billion a yet they cut the social security budget by 12 Billion