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Hi, I was wondering if some people can give me some help on a parking fine from NPC.

 

 

It States. THE DRIVER IS REQUIRED TO PAY THE CONTRACTUAL PARKING CHARGE OF £100 WITHIN 28DAYS OF THE DATE OF THIS NOTICE. THE CHARGE WILL BE REDUCED TO £60 IF PAYMENT IS RECEIVED BY 17-05-2015

 

 

We do not know then name and current address of the driver. Under the protection of freedom act 2012, schedule 4, you are now required to do one of the following by no later then the last day of the 28days beginning with day after date on witch this notice to keeper is issued. pay the outstanding amount if you were the driver of the vehicle, or provide us with the full name of the driver and current address where a notice can be served ( you are also provided to pass the notice to the driver ) Or make representation against/challenge of the contractual parking charge notice. If at the end of the period of 28days, beginning with the day after the date of witch this notice to keeper is issued you have not complied with the above, then you ( as registered keeper of the vehicle ) will become liable for the charge and we will have the right to take recovery action against you.

 

 

This was in a leisure centre car park and I had just ran over the time on the parking ticket. I know they use there own staff to patrol the car park as the fine ticket was a piece of A4 paper saying CONGRATULATIONS YOU HAVE A £100 FINE place under my windscreen wipers. Not very professional at all.

 

 

Should I respond or Ignore these letters? I can see by other threads these are a bunch of no gooders.

 

 

Any help would be very much appreciated

 

 

Shaun

 

 

Shaun

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Hi, thanks for replying. My scanner has gone down at the moment but I might be able to scan it at work next Monday. I could try taking a picture of the letter. Are they right to say as the registered keeper of the vehicle you will be liable for the charge and we will have to take recovery against you, even if I wasn't driving the car on that day?

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CONGRATULATIONS YOU HAVE A £100 FINE

 

Really! Be very interested to see that, as it isn't even a fine, donuts!

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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its obviously done in house by the leisure companys staff as its nothing like a ticket you would get by a public traffic warden that works for the council or any legit parking control.

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Would love to see the signage at the site if this is how they think a contract is formed. There is a difference between an agreed contractual obligation and a charge for breach of contract so looking forward to see how and agreed contractual sum is a court ordered penalty.

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If you agree to the contract they are offering, then if you pay the £60, you can park there for ever more...

 

Could work out cheaper in the long run....

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They are there but they are utter gibberish. It is said that you cant park but if you do your are breaking this agreement and forming aonther one that allows them to claim £120. If you dont pay up them we will charge someone else £260.

Sorry my mateys but you wont get that one past a lawyer. If a contract is formed and then broken you can only claim for the losses caused by the breach, so £3.00 at most for the latter.

Now, moving on to the incorrectly parked vehicles. This is an absolute gem as there are no conditions to breach on this so no claim can ever be made. In this case the argument is that any vehicle there that shpuldnt be is incorrectly parked and so as there is no definition of that no brach caused to that condition of parking and so nothing due.

Who writes their signs for them, I want that job. My 5 year old grandchild can help me.

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You do not respond to the NTD if you are the RK.

 

It is a waiting game, as NPC have to give the driver 28 days to respond before they pay the DVLA to get RK details. This is if they are hoping to use the POFA.

Then a NTK must be received between 29-56 days of the parking event.

 

We all want to see a picture of the NTD... :nod:

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If they havnt contacted DVLA yet, how did they get my details and address to send the letter?

 

You said it was a windscreen ticket??

 

Looking back your first post states;

 

It States. THE DRIVER IS REQUIRED TO PAY THE CONTRACTUALparking charge*OF £100 WITHIN 28DAYS OF THE DATE OF THIS NOTICE. THE CHARGE WILL BE REDUCED TO £60 IF PAYMENT IS RECEIVED BY 17-05-2015

 

 

Then you state;

 

 

Hi the date of the offence was 30-07-2015

 

Can you give us a correct time line and dates as to what has been received please....

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Hi, sorry yes the incident date was 30-7-2015 there was a piece of paper left on my Windscreen saying Congratulations you have a parking ticket fine for £100. My partner it ripped up and through it away as we thought it was just a scare mongering tactic as it was homemade and very amateurish. I then got a letter through the post with pictures of my car ( with out the £100 parking fine piece of paper on it ) on the 7-8-2015

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Well you probably should appeal the NTK and try to get a POPLA code. The appeal must state that as RK you are not liable for the charge and you were not the driver. Then add ericsbrothers dismantling of the signage that the driver had photographed.

 

 

But National Parking Control only issued 23 codes last year.

 

 

Then you have sorry state of this ' company ' ;

 

 

http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07630266/CASCADE-FINANCIAL-LIMITED/company-summary

 

 

http://www.britishparking.co.uk/Approved-Operators

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Am I right in thinking that the sign isn't compliant due to the use of a PO Box address and not a physical address also, amongst other mistakes?

 

This lot seem to be at the bottom end of the PPC industry, no doubt one of the rogue cowboy clamping companies before they promoted themselves to PPC cowboys.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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so paper ticket on screen on 30-7. They then have to give 29-56 days grace before sending out NTK and then the keeper has 28 days to appeal, name the driver or pay up at the discounted rate. They have failed miserably on this front so there is no keeper liability under the PoFA

The use of a PO box as a service address is a no-no but that isnt the worst of it. They claim to be compliant with the CoP's of the BPA yet their claim about the fees doesnt sit with that and the wording of the signage is just gibberish. They are saying 3 complately different things and none of them match with the supposed breach so there has been no breach so no demand for payemnt can be made..

I would respond and say you are appealing as the keeper of the vehicle against any liability as they protocols of para 8 and 9 of the PoFA have not been met and therefore they should cancel their claim aginst you or issue a POPLA code.

They will lose at POPLA for many reasons and it will cost them

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Thankyou for the advice guys, I will get a response posted out to them tmoz.

 

 

One last Question! On there letter it says if I do not tell them the name/address/details of the driver on the day of the incident they will be forced to take recovery action against me as the registered owner of the vehicle. Is this right/legal?

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Thankyou for the advice guys, I will get a response posted out to them tmoz.

 

 

One last Question! On there letter it says if I do not tell them the name/address/details of the driver on the day of the incident they will be forced to take recovery action against me as the registered owner of the vehicle. Is this right/legal?

 

They have not met the conditions of PoFA, so can only chase the driver. They are idiots.

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DO not identify the driver and they cant chase anyone as they clearly do not know who it is. They cannot say that they assume it is the keeper nor claim that it is for the keeper to prove they were not the driver, despite the IAS thinking the law works that way.

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