Help! Paypal ebay akinika debt collectors

[Mickylogic]

Hi, I'd like to thank anyone in advance for helping me.

 

I'm looking a bit of advice.

 

Around May time I was selling shoes on eBay.

The items were as described and brand new.

But I sold one pair through paypal invoice t to a guy in russia.

 

I had since closed the PayPal account.

after the account was closed a dispute was opened, and I couldn't do anything.

 

I have since apparently owe PayPal 190.24 but I have never received the shoes back either the buyer gets a win win.

 

Today I received a letter from akinika about paying the debt.

I'm wondering if there's anything I can do.

Or if I am to deny/prolong this will I end up paying more?

 

Is it also possible to get them to wipe the debt by paying say 100 right away rather than paying a very low direct debit amount each month?

 

Thanks, Michael

Edited August 3, 2015 by Mickylogic
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[citizenB]

What is the problem with the shoes that went to Russia ?

 

Were they not received or were they rejected ?

 

Who opened the dispute, you or the buyer ?

[Bazooka Boo]

And I certainly would NOT be paying anything to this powerless outfit either!

 

If you pay anyone then it should be PP, not some tin pot third party DCA.

 

Is this the cost of the shoes?

 

You won't be forced to pay anything more either just because you look into the legalities of whether you actually owe anyone anything or not.

[Mickylogic]

What is the problem with the shoes that went to Russia ?

 

Were they not received or were they rejected ?

 

Who opened the dispute, you or the buyer ?

Not sure, the buyer had the shoes a few weeks by this point as item was tracked arrived before I closed the paypal account. They did, and I couldn't comment or act on the dispute. Yet the item never arrived back

[Mickylogic]

And I certainly would NOT be paying anything to this powerless outfit either!

 

If you pay anyone then it should be PP, not some tin pot third party DCA.

 

 

Is this the cost of the shoes?

 

You won't be forced to pay anything more either just because you look into the legalities of whether you actually owe anyone anything or not.

 

Thanks for the reply! It's just if I was to go through PayPal then would this company will still bother me. It seems they've added a fee on the value. I also paid 11 pounds shipping on top myself. This may be stupid but can this affect my credit?

[citizenB]

No, they cannot report to the credit reference agencies - so your credit history is safe.

 

I still do not understand why a dispute was raised - if the client received the goods why was a dispute raised ??

[Mickylogic]

I think they claimed shoes weren't as described. Which they 100% were,and surely they'd have claimed right away not weeks after wear. Although I couldn't reply as my account was closed

[citizenB]

Ah right, I understand now.

 

Yes, you would have thought that they would have said sooner - in fact on delivery if there had been a problem

[Mickylogic]

From reading PayPal always sides with the buyer. I'm just not sure whether I should try and not pay this or what should I do. The debt collectors offer direct debit payments. But I'm worried about doing that

[renegadeimp]

Dont pay anyone anything.

[Bazooka Boo]

The debt collectors offer direct debit payments. But I'm worried about doing that

 

You're right to be worried, be very worried!

 

You owe no-one anything, least of all this powerless DCA.

 

Ignore them entirely, they cannot do a thing and they know it, just hoping they can exploit your lack of knowledge and con money out of you that you don't owe.

 

As for PP, for what it's worth, lodge a formal complaint with them, if they even have such a thing as a complaints procedure?

 

DO NOT pay anyone anything! You're being had.

[dx100uk]

A dca iss not a bailliff

Ignore them as long as your credit file is clean?

[renegadeimp]

The DCA they use is the same DCA that various website providers do. They just throw around threats then run off. I had a run in with the same DCA a while ago. Told them to put up or shut up, and heard nothing back. Not even a acknowledgement they read the email.

[Mickylogic]

Thank you, I assumed it was typical fear mongering. Considering paypals woeful dispute policy That allows sellers to get conned out of money 6 as far as six months after a purchase I doubt they'd have a formal complaint thing. Only was worried In case they or PayPal could escalate the claim? But only thing is court, which would out weigh the debt wouldn't it?

[Mickylogic]

Thanks guys, it's good to hear people who have had good outcomes. also I assume my credit is fine as I'm 19 and only thing I have been paying off is my phone contracts.

[renegadeimp]

They won't go near a court room. The dca cannot touch you as they don't own the alleged debt

[Mickylogic]

They won't go near a court room. The dca cannot touch you as they don't own the alleged debt

thank you, should i be worried about paypal taking it further? Just curious if they have been known to do anything else

[renegadeimp]

Paypal wont take it further. All theyll do is get a DCA to chase you

[Bazooka Boo]

I've never heard of PP going to court yet?

 

As you rightly say, their dispute policy, including their T&C's would be pulled to pieces in a court room, hence why they steer clear.

[Mickylogic]

I appreciate you guys telling me not to pay, I'll just ignore them and see how it goes. Unless I'm best to tell them to stop trying to contact me for harassment etc? I'm sure there's 1000s of people that these DCAs contact at the same time

[Bazooka Boo]

Correct, they send out these threat letters by the thousands in a vain attempt to intimidate one recipient into responding,

so they can exploit them.

[dx100uk]

never invite letter tennis

 

 

dx

[Mickylogic]

I'm happy I found this forum of well informed people. As long as nothing will happen suppose I'll just wait it out, and eventually they'll stop trying to contact me. If only other PayPal users were wise to these schemes