CP Plus - POLPA Code received - what now?

[ericsbrother]

Moto have planning permission for THEIR signage,

does the parking company have permission for theirs?

 

 

This consent was granted in 2008 and I would bet that the CP Plus signs are a lot more recent than that

otherwise they wouldnt ever be compliant with the BPA CoP or the PoFA.

 

So, this is not the end,

you need to be getting on to the council and asking them whether CP+ have applied

and/or what are the details of the Moto application.

 

Also, Moto wont own the site so assignment of aithority to CP+ will also be a stumbling block for them

as they undoubtedly have a contract with the tenants of the land

[IJB1210]

Morning, Another letter from CPPlus over the weekend - see attached. Do we still do nothing? Its starting feel like a game of chicken - see who cracks first!

 

No response yet from my enquiry to Harrogate Council re does CPPlus have planning approval for their signage.

CPP April 2016.pdf

[silverfox1961]

Please remove the reference number and your reg number please.

 

CP+ would have to take court action if they want their pound of flesh but of course they cannot guarantee a win and the fact it would cost them a damn sight more that they could ever get back.

[dx100uk]

further action

yet another threat-o-gram

[ericsbrother]

chase up the council. Make it clear what you are after as regrds to waht signs and who put them there and when. It will most likely be granted post 2012 if the permission exists and I bet it doesnt.

Ignore CPP until they send a proper lba

[IJB1210]

Hello - what is lba? I'm sure I've seen a list of acronyms on here, but can't find it now.

[armadillo71]

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[IJB1210]

thank you.

 

I have just had a response from the council saying "have not found any applications from CPPlus".

[ericsbrother]

then if CPP decide that they want to take a chance you have a response that will kill any claim and may get them in hot water. You can now complain to the council about the breach of planning law and ask that their signs are removed as they are illegal and misleading other motorists into thinking they can form a contractual obligation when that isnt true.

[IJB1210]

Evening,

 

Just home from a wee break, and have received the attached in the post.

 

As we have already established from Harrogate council, they have no record of CPPlus having planning permission for their signage. I've not heard back from the Council re this, when I brought it to their attention.

 

What would the best course of action be now? Is it worth highlighting the lack of planning permission to these legal people?

 

How long can these things rumble on for? We're almost at 12 months!

 

Thanks again.

JMW Legal Letter June 2016.pdf

[ericsbrother]

they are just paid to send a threatening letter so you can ignore them.

 

 

However, it may be prudent to send a letter saying that

"no monies are owed because the placing of the signage at the site in question was a criminal act

and therefore no contract was ever formed and they know this very well.

 

 

If they persist you may counterclaim for harassment."

[IJB1210]

Thanks Ericsbrother, so write to the legal folk saying this, or CPPlus?

[ericsbrother]

write to the people who sent this letter. CP Plus dont employ anyone who can write so why assume they can read

[tobyjugg2]

Hi ericsbrother,

I have a little question if you have the answer please.

 

These Tesco and Aldi automatic parking setups signs and cameras

 

If Tesco/Aldi own the land (they aren't on some shared motorway site),

 

1. Is specific planning permission needed to erect the cameras and signs or could it be lost somewhere in the main building etc planning permission (Do they even need special permission for them at all if they have permission for other signs)?

 

2. Which leads on to: who needs the planning permission for the sign tesco/aldi or the parking company 'managing' them or could it be either?

 

Interesting thread.

although it must be very frustrating and worrying far beyond its worth for the Op

[ericsbrother]

each and every sign needs its own PP.

 

 

When they build these stores the supermarket chain applies for PP for all of their signage

and provides a plan of where they are and how big they are, whether they are illuminated etc.

 

 

Some of these signs have to be paid for when it comes to planning CONSENT

because the rules are slightly different for big signs and lit signs.

 

 

The parking co's arrive later on and generally cant be bothered to apply for planning permission

(different part of legislations means they get given it on the nod for free unless it is a conservation area).

 

 

PE sometimes asks the store to apply for the PP on their behalf (cheapskates)

and will claim that the store is at fault if they then get pulled up for it.

Doesnt change the illegality of the signage though.

 

Under the advertising display hoardings regs of the Town and Country Planning act

you need permission for every sign that is on your property.

 

 

Certain signs have "deemed consent" such as your house number and things like bus stops, railway station name signs and certain other classes of signs that are "infomational" ie estate agents boards .

 

 

That doesnt include advertisements for unilateral contracts in car parks.

[tobyjugg2]

Thank You ericsbrother

Very informative.