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    • You honestly have a very serious situation here. Is there any chance that this problem might be being caused by somebody that you know? In future you should open all letters and copy them and then return them to the sender but make sure you have a copy. This is very important. I understand that the three of you are being targeted. I am saying "targeted" because it is too much of a coincidence that you are all the subject of the same kind of identity theft/identity fraud committed by different people. This suggests very strongly to me that there is one person who is doing this and the fact that this person is doing this to all three of you also suggests very strongly that it is somebody who is known to you. I would find it difficult to imagine that there could be any other explanation. Have you got a list of the companies that have become involved because of this problem? Please could you post up a list here
    • Yes I am so sorry.  I am using my phone to type and it comes out in a block.  I will see if I can borrow use of a friends computer next time 
    • I'm sorry that you have been upset about it. I think you are very justified feel that way. Before I start answering, can I please point out that this is the second time that you've posted a solid block of text. It's very difficult for people to read and to give you the enthusiastic support that you deserve. In your first post, – which was very long – one of the site team restructured it so that it was legible. We don't really have time to do this kind of thing and so please would you make sure that in future your posts are properly spaced and punctuated and that will encourage people to view your story and to give you the advice that you need.   Also, now that I have restructured your post I see that you have recognised that your posts are not properly spaced because you don't have a computer. You can still use the paragraph return with a phone and it will make it much easier.
    • Sorry I’ve just been a bit upset about it.       It started with my daughter (aged 27) four years ago.  We rang the train company and tried to sort it over the phone.  I know now that was wrong.  My daughter has had at least 6 separate letters relating to different incidents of fare evasion.   One of the incidents was going to court.   My other daughter has had about 8 or more separate incidents. She has a file which I can get this week.   My ex partner has now started to get some (Erica instead of Eric ).   There ha e been some addressed using our surname but with a forename not known.     The one relating to me had gone to court and I have had to ask them to open the case again.   I was advised not to do a statutory declaration as although I didn’t open the letter addressed with a misspelt surname I did suspect what it was and so couldn’t say I didn’t know about it.   At least one other has gone to a court.   So many we have out back in the post as unknown at This address.     There are too many to fight each one altogether for my family they must be over 20, I’m sorry this isn’t very well space I only have the use of the phone   I don’t have a computer
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My partner has received a charge notice from CP Plus for parking on their clients property at Roadchef Chester services for 3 hours 53 minutes when the maximum time allowed is 2 hours.

 

It says if she pays within 14 days they will take the reduced payment of £50. Not sure what the full payment is.

 

They have sent her the 2 photos of her entering the car park and leaving the car park, she had met a friend there and was planning on being under the 2 hours but they got chatting etc etc and she forgot about the parking notices up at the services. She was in Costa the whole time she was there and spent money there.

 

 

She has previously had one of these in 2012 on the same car park before (Stupid I know!) which we ignored but I am ware the law has changed so do not know how she stands now!

 

Please advise? Any advice would be most welcome!

 

Regards

 

gh0108 (Gary)

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As it was an ANPR capture the notice to keeper has to be received within 14 days after the day of the event. Please tell us the date of the supposed breach and the date the letter was received. CP Plus are pretty poor at sending their claims out in time so that will be the first thing to beat them with.

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As it was an ANPR capture the notice to keeper has to be received within 14 days after the day of the event. Please tell us the date of the supposed breach and the date the letter was received. CP Plus are pretty poor at sending their claims out in time so that will be the first thing to beat them with.

 

Hi thanks for your prompt reply, they are in timescale incident was 20/06/15 and we received it today so 12 days.

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then you respond by saying that you do not believe that they have the authority to make contracts and claim monies in their own name and if they cannot produce a contract that shows they have this right then you demand a POPLA number so you may appeal their refusal to cancel or provide sight of said contract. Do not mention anything about the circumstances of the visit or who was driving at the time. The claim sent was to the keeper of the vehicle and that is how you are writing.

By responding you will force them to either cancel or incur further costs. The land will not be owned by the people they have a contract with and they will try and bluff their way out of that fact but it wont cut any ice with the adjudicators.

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just to confirm, ericsbrothers advice is the way to go. Highly unlikely that CP+ will cancel the ticket but they must then give you a POLA code which you can use to appeal further where more appeal info can be supplied to them.

 

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Hi

just to confirm, ericsbrothers advice is the way to go. Highly unlikely that CP+ will cancel the ticket but they must then give you a POLA code which you can use to appeal further where more appeal info can be supplied to them.

 

Remember, always write in the third party when it comes to the driver. Never say 'I'. Always say 'The Driver'

 

Thanks for the advice Silverfox.

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As she is the registered keeper, yup but to be honest, a signature isn't needed. Just any old squiggle would do with these.

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Hi

I sent the above letter as advised by ericsbrother it was sent recorded delivery and a signature was got for the letter on 13/07/15. Today my wife received a charge notice reminder saying £100 is now due. Do I need to do anything or wait for them to respond to my initial reply? Any advice would be welcomed. Thanks in advance.

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Hi

My wife has received a reply to the letter sent to CP Plus which says:

That the PCN was issued legally and correctly according to the British Parking Association Approved Operators Scheme and given that the signage is displayed in compliance with all relevant laws and regulations the fact that you were seemingly unaware of this is not considered a mitigating circumstance for appeal. In light of this my representations have been considered and rejected.

 

It then talks about the POPLA appeal and the cases they will consider. They then give the POPLA number.

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciate, thanks in advance guys.

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It would help to see a photo of the signage at the site...

 

But your POPLA appeal must include;

 

1. That you wish to see , through sight of contract , that CP+ have lawful authority to issue and pursue parking charge notices.

 

2. Proof that the charge is not punitive.

 

3. The breakdown of the genuine pre estimate of loss that the charge must represent.

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RK means registered keeper and the best way to put up photos is to upload them to a site such as photobucket and then post the links to the photos here.The main thing is not to panic. You're in fantastic hands here. Armadillo71 and Ericsbrother gave me fantastic guidance and saved me a fortune.

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As they dont mention the PoFA you have to think under what circumstance then that any debt is incurred by the keeper of the vehicle. They would also have no right to contact the DVLA to obtain the keeper details if there is no keeper liability and this is worth taking up as a complaint with the DVLA if CPP claim that they are chasing your other half as driver because how do they know and if they do know why do they need the contact the DVLA anyway?

Not a question they would like to answer so wait for them to slip up. As for their other letters no part of the process either so another stamp wasted. You have the POPLA number so add the above to the reasons for appealing along with the others suggested.

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OK thanks for your advice ericsbrother much appreciated and I will try and put an email together to them today. Guys thanks for all the advice much appreciated.

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