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Hi, I have copied my Cahoot Fixed Loan Agreement, but think they may have ticked all the boxes - any advice would be appreciated as to if it is enforceable thanks

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Well as it has been a few days since my original post, I am presuming that the agreement is enforceable??????

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take it to your c.a.b, they will tell you straight away if its ok or not.

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they are useless - and the nearest one is 30 miles away. I'll just forget it and pay them.

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Take a look at this link and compare your agreements to the information posted. This thread has been put together by the very knowledgeable Steven4064 and covers the issues you need to consider.

 

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/162851-consumer-credit-agreements-guide.html


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I've looked at the terms for an enforceable agreement from the very knowledgeable Steve

 

 

my agreement did not contain any 'rights to cancel' not did I receive anything about cancelling the agreement from them.

 

 

So it might appear that the agreement is not enforceable - where are u very knowledgeable Steve?

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Where are you at with this loan? Defaulted? Still paying?


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I've looked at the terms for an enforceable agreement from the very knowledgeable Steve and my agreement did not contain any 'rights to cancel' not did I receive anything about cancelling the agreement from them. So it might appear that the agreement is not enforceable - where are u very knowledgeable Steve?

It states that you have 14 days from signing that you could cancel the agreement, sorry but it looks enforcable to me.

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oh well, I will just wait till the letter arrives from court.

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The only person who can tell you if this is enforceable is the Judge at a CC hearing....if it doesn't contain prescribed Terms then s127(3) is a complete defence ..if other elements are missing then only the court can enforce so this would be subject to cancellation rights ( which are there!) and default notice.

 

If this were mine I wouldn't want to go to court with it as its got everything needed to enforce


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Hi - out of the blue I received a letter from Hoist Portfolio for a Santander debt.

 

I checked my credit file and there was nothing there.

 

I wrote to them saying it was statute barred but they took me to court anyway.

 

I have now received a letter from Howard Cohen with a printout of payments showing the last payment made to my account was 9th March

- they filed the court claim on 21st February.

 

I am defending this saying the suspicious printout has no reference to me and could be anyone

and also it is suspicious that the claim is 2 weeks before the debt would have been statute barred.

 

To be honest I don't think I have a leg to stand on but your advice would be appreciated.

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Please will you put up the claim form and tell us a bit more about this in a structured chronology.

 

Is this an overdraft debt?


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What defence did you enter. . If it was statute barred, did you get hold of statements of account from Santander ?

 

You need to get hold of full details of that last payment on 9th March ? Who made the payment, bank sort code/account or debit card used ?

 

Think you will need to make enquiries with Santander as a matter of urgency to verify when you last made a payment.


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Do you mean you are going to court on 3rd July ?

 

If you do mean June, then I think you have missed it ?

 

You might be able to get hold of the last payment date by telephoning Santander. You don't need to tell them why you are asking, simply say you would like to establish the last payment date.

 

If they aren't helpful, then you can write to Howard Cohen requesting details of the payment.

 

Was it made by Direct Debit - Postal Order, cheque, over the phone, bank transfer or payment over the bank counter. Then you require supporting details for whatever method they say it was.

 

There are a lot of these "phantom" payments and they are usually seen off fairly swiftly.

 

If Howard Cohen don't provide this information in time, then it is important you raise the issue at court.

 

What was the amount of the payment and also was there a time lapse between this March payment and the previous payment.


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sorry mean 3rd July.

 

I have written to Santander and they have never replied.

 

It was for a car loan

 

 

the printout from Hoist (Howard Cohen) shows £8000 was taken out in March 2006

 

payments made regularly until 9.3.2009 reducing the balance to £3463.52

they then stopped

and the solicitors are now asking for £4364.53.

 

The printout does not show any name or account number it is just headed Santander.

 

The payment was £152.66 every month regularly from March 2006 to March 2009.

 

I have tried speaking to Santander on the phone as well

but as it was so long ago I cannot remember my security answers

and they won't speak to me :(

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The payment was £152.66 every month regularly from March 2006 to March 2009.

 

Ah, so it wasn't an out of place payment.. darn it .

 

I have edited the thread title for the date :)


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Have you applied for a CCA? Have they sent one?

 

Please will you tell us what you put in your defence.


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I have said that I do not acknowledge the debt.

 

I have asked Santander to provide information and they have failed to do so.

 

I do not accept that the date is correct as it is only 2 weeks before it will be statute barred.

 

I have asked for official information showing clear payments that I have made

and the dates that I have made them rather than just a slip of paper with payments and dates.

 

I have also asked the court that the original signed agreement be provided.

 

I have asked why the debt has increased by over £1000

 

and I have also asked that I be given time to pay if the judge finds in favour of Hoist.

 

Received a claim form from MCOL in November 2013

 

submitted my defence and heard nothing.

 

The debt is due to be over 6 years old at the end of the year.

 

Does this mean it is statute barred and cannot be pursued or because the creditor put in a claim form 18 months ago

 

does this give them the opportunity to collect forever?

 

Thanks :)

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You should be asking by what method this "mystery payment" was made i.e. cheque (cheque number and account), card payment (time, date, transaction code) - if bank transfer - which branch, time date etc.

 

It has been known for payments to appear on an account just before it becomes statute barred - a common one is for the £1 or £10 payment for a copy of CCA or SAR to be used as a payment on the account. When challenged these payments usually disappear and are labelled as "mistakes" - claim then goes away..............


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Received a claim form from MCOL in November 2013 submitted my defence and heard nothing. The debt is due to be over 6 years old at the end of the year. Does this mean it is statute barred and cannot be pursued or because the creditor put in a claim form 18 months ago does this give them the opportunity to collect forever?

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Hi -

tried to defend a claim from HOIST but the judge obviously did not read any of my defence and

now I have a 'General Form of Judgement ordering me to pay £4740 on or before 29th July 2015.'

 

As I do not have this amount and am struggling to pay anything at the moment could someone please tell me what I do now?

 

I did put in my defence that if judgement was awarded to the claimant

 

could I be allowed time to pay - but that was ignored too.

 

Thanks guys.

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Did you admit the debt in your defence?

 

If so guaranteedway to get a CCJ

 

Shame you did not come here first

 

What was the history of the debt when was the last payment made


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did you attend court - need to give more information on case.


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No I did not attend court as I could not get the day off work - I did not admit the debt and I did come to you guys but you did not get any advice.

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