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    • 123 Abc efg   22/09/2019 Dear Sir,   Re:  v xyz. Case No: 123456   CPR 31.14 Request   On (date) I received the Claim Form in this case issued by you out of the county court of Salford.      I confirm having returned my acknowledgement of service to the court in which I indicate my intention to contest and counter claim all of your claim.   Please treat this letter as my request made under CPR 31.14 for the disclosure and the production of a verified and legible copy of [each of the following / the] document(s) mentioned in your Particulars of Claim:     1: The agreement/overdraft Facility Confirmation and Terms and Conditions from that date. You will appreciate that in an ordinary case and by reason of the provisions of CPR PD 16 para 7.3, where a claim is based upon a written agreement, a copy of the contract or documents constituting the agreement the original(s) should be available at the hearing. Further, that any general conditions incorporated in the contract should also be attached.   Failure to prove the above will render any claim unenforceable pursuant to section127 and 61b(3) CCA1974   2: The Demand/Termination Notice (Notice served under Sections 76(1) and 98(1) of the CCA1974   3: Notices of Sums in Arrears under running account credit CCA2006 sec 86C   4. Notice of Assignment *   You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the document(s) I have requested are disclosed at your earliest convenience.. Your CPR 31 duties extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for the originals of the documents I have requested, the better for you to be able to verify the document's authenticity and to provide me with a legible copy. Further, where I have requested a copy of a document, the original of which is now in the possession of another person, you will have a right to possession of that document if you have mentioned it in your case. You must take immediate steps to recover and preserve it for the purpose of this case.   Where I have mentioned a document and there is in your possession more than one version of that same document owing to a modification, obliteration or other marking or feature, each version will be a separate document and you must provide a copy of each version of it to me. Your obligations extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for any version(s) to include an obligation to recover and preserve such version(s) which are now in the possession of a third party.   In accordance with CPR 31.15© I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request.   If you are unable to comply with this request and believe that you will never be able to comply with this request please confirm in your response.     Yours faithfully   Xyz. is this ok to send. and recorded delivery.
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Your 1 & 2 require a rethink Poppay

 

They do not refer to Sav Credit in 1 and 2 refers to debt assignment ...not a CCA.

 

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I have made amendments to points 1 and 2. I did have a letter of assignment years ago therefore cannot deny. Particulars of Claim

 

1. The Defendant entered into a credit agreement described by the original creditor as Bank of Scotland (AquaCard)- Credit Card and having account number *********** ('the Account').

 

2. The Claimant, a UK limited company with company number *******, is the assignee and legal owner of all rights previously enjoyed by the original creditor in respect of the Account.

 

3. The Defendant is indebted to the claimant in respect of the account in the sum of ****

 

4. The Claimant claims the said sum of **** plus costs. court fee £*** Legal representatives costs £** total ****

 

 

###Proposed Defence####

 

The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made.

 

1. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had financial dealings with Aqua Card. I am unaware of what alleged debt the claimant refers to having failed to adequately particularise its claim.

 

2. Paragraph 2 is noted.

 

3. Paragraph 3 is denied It is not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to:

 

a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement with the original creditor; and

b) show how the Defendant has reached the amount claimed for; and

c) Show or evidence a Default Notice /Notice of Sums in Arrears,

d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim;

 

4. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed.

 

5. Despite several requests being made under the consumer credit Act 1974, for the agreement and the other documents referred to in the Statement of Particulars, and on payment of the statutory fee of £1.00 for each request; the latest request being **th October 2015 the Claimant remains in breach of the sec78 request. The Claimant has advised DCA that they do not have a CCA. I have retained said correspondence.

 

6.A further request made via CPR 31.14, after the claim had been issued, has also failed to elicit a copy of the agreement and other documents on which the Claimant claim relies upon.

 

7.Until such time the claimant can comply with the above sec78 request is therefore prevented from enforcing or seeking the relief claimed or any relief.

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Thats what thumbs up usually means Poppay:-)

 

I know, just been wired the last couple of days and still crossing the t's and dotting the i's :)

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My log in details are not working for the MCOL site I made a note of them, but they just keep coming back as incorrect.

 

 

I am panicking now, does this mean that my ack never registered?

 

 

i do have a number but I cannot seem to find out how to access this.

 

 

I dont appear to have recieved any emails from mcol

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OK, I've stopped panicking. Apparently you get locked out for several hours if you try more than 3 times, but I always very careful about saving correct log in details. I called them anyway and they advised send by email, which I have now done.

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I wonder if perhaps you could mention the lack of statements, notice of arrears or notice of Default Sums after paragraph 5 and then renumber from there.

 

Andyorch isn't online at the moment, but will be back a bit later on today. I will flag this for his attention.


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I wonder if perhaps you could mention the lack of statements, notice of arrears or notice of Default Sums after paragraph 5 and then renumber from there.

 

Andyorch isn't online at the moment, but will be back a bit later on today. I will flag this for his attention.

 

Ignore me.. looks like you are all done and dusted now :)


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Ignore me.. looks like you are all done and dusted now :)

 

I am now, despite the blip on the mcol site. amazing how my mood has improved, now that is out of the way :) will keep you updated as to what follows :)

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It certainly seems to lift a weight from your shoulders once the defence is entered and you have met the deadlines:-)


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I tried posting this from a notepad document and still no line breaks, I dont know why this keeps happening. the line breaks are there, but as soon as i post it, they all disappear, am I missing something?

 

What browser (and version) are you using please?

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What browser (and version) are you using please?

 

I'm using Firefox 38.1.1, should I be using ie?

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Not at all, Firefox should be fine. Just we've seen this issue in the past with older versions of IE

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Not at all, Firefox should be fine. Just we've seen this issue in the past with older versions of IE

 

It may be that I'm using a work laptop, and our laptops tend to be tied down pretty tight, there may be something that is not activated, which is causing the issue.

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Hi All Finally heard from Weightmans...

..it says...

 

 

. We write in respect of the above mentioned proceedings.

 

 

We have received your Defence and can confirm that our client does not accept such.

 

 

Accordingly, we have written to the Court to request that the matter proceed as defended.

 

 

Yours faithfully I am guessing this is pretty standard so far?

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what date did you file your def?

 

 

what date is on the letter?


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That’s useful in some ways. They have essentially denied all the points in your defence. So if they go to court and lose on one of those points, which you state you have repeatedly made clear to them – then ask the judge for costs on the grounds of their unreasonable behaviour, and failure at every stage to avoid using the courts.


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what date did you file your def?

 

 

what date is on the letter?

 

Filed the defence on 5th November by email, court verified receipt by email also. Weightmans letter is dated 3rd December

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That’s useful in some ways. They have essentially denied all the points in your defence. So if they go to court and lose on one of those points, which you state you have repeatedly made clear to them – then ask the judge for costs on the grounds of their unreasonable behaviour, and failure at every stage to avoid using the courts.

 

Hi DonkeyB I will make a note of this

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not sure if its 28days or 33 days from your def filing date the case gets stayed?

I wonder if they are in time?


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not sure if its 28days or 33 days from your def filing date the case gets stayed?

I wonder if they are in time?

 

Just counted the days, not including the 5th Nov, it is exactly 28 days 6th Nov to the 3rd Dec since filing my defence, I recieved the letter on the 4th Dec. I bet they are in time, but just hung it out as long as possible?

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I have received form N180 for mediation, which needs to be returned by the 31st December. so far it looks pretty straight forward, will complete it over the weekend, as getting difficult to do this stuff at work at present.

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