I am in court 22nd May! CEAL/DEL - help! **Discontinued **

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juel1966,

 

Good Luck for tomorrow.

[honeybee13]

Good luck from me too, please let us know how it goes.

 

HB

[DragonFly1967]

I personally think that CEL/DEAL will do their usual disappearing act and not show up. In which case you'll win by default.

 

But, in the unlikely event that they do, you should have more than enough ammunition in this thread alone to sink their claim and be awarded your own (reasonable) costs.

 

Those "signatures" for instance. While there might not be enough evidence there to investigate a criminal act, showing them to the judge will instil an element of doubt in their mind, and that's all you need to do. The judge will look at it "on the balance of probability" (a much lower threshold), and you'd have to say that on the balance of probability, those forms were not signed by the same person, so one cannot be certain that the signature on your claim form in that of the 'genuine' Mr M Shwartz (who doesn't actually exist on the role of solicitors).

 

Good luck, not that I think you'll actually need it

[juel1966]

Hi Everyone

 

The mysterious letter at the post office was a notice of discontinuance. It had been issued on the 18.05.2015.

 

However being the untrusting soul I am (thanks to all your advice) I went down to Wakefield court and confirmed the case had in fact been discontinued.

 

Watchdog are investigating these people so I have supplied them with all the documents shared on here.

 

Cant thank you guys enough for all your help and support.

 

Day at home for me then!!!

 

Thank you

Edited May 22, 2015 by citizenB

[DBC]

Is this the PPC where Watchdog sent in an undercover reporter? This is being broadcast next week (Thursday 28th)

[Bazooka Boo]

Excellent, is it these clowns that are on next weeks Watchdog?

I know they are running a piece on a PPC issuing fake court/sol letters...should be good!

 

Ha ha, great minds DBC!

[juel1966]

Excellent, is it these clowns that are on next weeks Watchdog?

I know they are running a piece on a PPC issuing fake court/sol letters...should be good!

 

Ha ha, great minds DBC!

 

Not sure but I am now vehemently joining the campaign against these people in whatever way I can. I have lost sleep and been stressed over the tactics used. Fake and photocopied letters, non practicing solicitors' who cant spell their own name, electronic signatures etcetc. The whole practice is disgusting

[juel1966]

Is this the PPC where Watchdog sent in an undercover reporter? This is being broadcast next week (Thursday 28th)

 

Yes it is. I will watch with great interest

[citizenB]

Excellent news - I have amended your thread title to reflect that this was discontinued

[Bazooka Boo]

Yes it is. I will watch with great interest

 

Get in touch with them and tell them your story....

https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mg74/contact

[juel1966]

Excellent news - I have amended your thread title to reflect that this was discontinued

 

Thank you

[dx100uk]

well done jules glad to help.

 

 

give watchdog everthing they ask for

that's all i'll say:wink:

 

dx

[SabreSheep]

Congrats.

 

Bet you are glad you didnt pay now

 

Well done for staying strong!

 

And thanks dx for the corrections on my post

[filrobbo]

Well done I am on with them , just waiting on best advise to defend this claim.

[DragonFly1967]

Not sure but I am now vehemently joining the campaign against these people in whatever way I can. I have lost sleep and been stressed over the tactics used. Fake and photocopied letters, non practicing solicitors' who cant spell their own name, electronic signatures etcetc. The whole practice is disgusting

 

Welcome to the 'Wonderful World of Private Parking Companies'

 

A world in which they make up the rules, usually as they go along.

 

 

 

Out of interest, what was the date on the letter that they sent regarding the case being discontinued?

[ploddertom]

Can you not claim your own costs?

[ericsbrother]

You can now send a bill to DEAL for your wasted effort in preparing a defence when they knew that there was no case to answer. The problem with a discontinuance is that unless it was literally the day before you will have trouble persuading the judge due to hear it that you deserve your costs. Try writing to the court and asking for a costs order.

However, you are now wised up to how this particular crook operates. 75% of people give up and pay up so they rake in tens of thousands of pounds that if the cases went to court would get them nothing. Tell all of your friends and relax over a cold drink.

[juel1966]

Welcome to the 'Wonderful World of Private Parking Companies'

 

A world in which they make up the rules, usually as they go along.

 

 

 

Out of interest, what was the date on the letter that they sent regarding the case being discontinued?

 

I have now sat and looked at the documentation.

The notice of discontinuence is dated 18/05. Cant read the signature but isnt Schwartz or Cohen.

The letter attached from DEAL is dated 19/05 and is marked urgent sent by guaranteed next day delivery before 1pm.. Looks like it is signed by someone called Debs ! but is a true signature rather than a template.

 

I suppose they leave it till the eleventh hour to see if you will actually pay

[juel1966]

Thanks for this Eric's brother but I think I am going to count my blessings.

 

The suggested fine and costs on the letters sent to me go up above £500 and whilst I know I could have paid the amount within 28 days and not suffered a ccj, it still makes me feel sick when I think what I could otherwise spend £500 on!!!

[DragonFly1967]

I have now sat and looked at the documentation.

The notice of discontinuence is dated 18/05. Cant read the signature but isnt Schwartz or Cohen.

The letter attached from DEAL is dated 19/05 and is marked urgent sent by guaranteed next day delivery before 1pm.. Looks like it is signed by someone called Debs ! but is a true signature rather than a template.

 

I suppose they leave it till the eleventh hour to see if you will actually pay

 

They do, and you can bet your life that they also look at forums such as this one, to see what they're about to get hit with if they're daft enough to take it all the way. They knew all along that they had no case and were probably just sat there with their fingers crossed hoping that you didn't and would just pay up.

[honeybee13]

Yay! Well done, Juel.

 

I think you did just the right thing going to court to confirm. It's not unknown for some companies to say they've discontinued and then go on to get judgements in default because someone more trusting than you didn't turn up at the court, I believe.

 

Have a great weekend and keep up the campaigning.

 

HB

[andydd]

Are there not now cost implications ?. I can see CPR 38.6 says it doesn't apply to small track claims, but is the defendant/OP entitled to some costs ? (I guess the amount of £90 ?, doesn't apply as he was told in advance of the discontinuance.

[citizenB]

Are there not now cost implications ?. I can see CPR 38.6 says it doesn't apply to small track claims, but is the defendant/OP entitled to some costs ? (I guess the amount of £90 ?, doesn't apply as he was told in advance of the discontinuance.

 

I think you can only reclaim costs in the small claims court if the claimant behaved badly/abused the process. I doubt a claim could be made for losing a day off work or travel expenses could be reclaimed, as you say they did notify the discontinuance

[Concernedparker]

Apologies - appreciate I'm more than likely breaching the forum etiquette however really need help asap!

CCJ letter received from Wright Hassall (Right Hassle) solicitors. Sum is for £300 in a free car park! CCJ response required in 14 days - any idea on response which could hold any weight?

Please help!

[DBC]

Apologies - appreciate I'm more than likely breaching the forum etiquette however really need help asap!

CCJ letter received from Wright Hassall (Right Hassle) solicitors. Sum is for £300 in a free car park! CCJ response required in 14 days - any idea on response which could hold any weight?

Please help!

You have not received a County Court Judgement. What you have received is an empty threat about taking you to court.

 

You really should start your own thread.