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    • hi   Thank you for your reply.   nice link . thank you very much.   I know I will get my refund. it has been offered. I have been told I am right about the situation. It does seem like this is in debate but this was clarified a long time ago.   Do you think I would be wasting my time to try and stop it happening to others?   I just would not want this happing to anyone else.   Thank you again                
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    • yes because 1000's of people believe a DCA is a bailiff and they are not and that penalty charges are lawful, they are not, so blindly cough up...   worth a few letters / free emails to try it on pays for the staff drinks down the pub that night with free money.   dx  
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I had 3 medical people unlawfully enter my home today ( they walked right in )

without being notified or informed in advance by any of them or my GP . From what I understand they believed I am at some risk ( without being able to tell me why ) other than my GP's concern over my well being. ( again another mystery )

 

I requested they leave - they did not and questioned me despite my inability to speak without a struggle / pain ( something my GP knew ) and then gave me ultimatum which boiled down to being forced to see a social worker ( which I assumes means I am now detained )

 

I still have no idea of how this suddenly happened , but I am not happy about it one bit.

 

Can any one suggest what my rights are in regard to this , and what I should do ( I'm in scotland )

 

thanks,

 

mikv

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Hello there.

 

This sounds upsetting for you.

 

How did these people get in?

 

Are you free to leave your home if you want to? If you can, it doesn't sound as if you're detained. My mother has a social worker because her GP was worried about her, this lady was very helpful.

 

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Do you have Mental Health problems.

 

Why would your GP be concerned about you - have you visited the surgery recently and perhaps given the GP cause for concern ?


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Your description of a sudden visit by 3 people like that 'on medical' grounds sounds to me very much like what happens in England when someone is 'sectioned' under our Mental Health Act 1983. Happened to my sister. Usually this is, initially, for 'assessment' under section 2, and basically comes into operation when a doctor considers that a patient might be at risk of harm to himself\herself or to others.

 

That Act largely doesn't apply in Scotland but the one summarised here does:-

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_(Care_and_Treatment)_(Scotland)_Act_2003

 

I am not at all familar with the statute, but, looking just at the summary, it might be the case that your GP issued an 'emergency certificate' with the intention not so much of detaining you but persuading you to accept more assistance from professionals. Pure guesswork on my part, but it's a theory. I would go ask the GP.

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When you say three medical people, did they say who they were or where they were from.

 

You should contact your GP and ask why this happened.


 
 

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Hello there.

 

This sounds upsetting for you.

 

How did these people get in?

 

Are you free to leave your home if you want to? If you can, it doesn't sound as if you're detained. My mother has a social worker because her GP was worried about her, this lady was very helpful.

 

HB

 

they barged in ( my door was unlocked )

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When you say three medical people, did they say who they were or where they were from.

 

You should contact your GP and ask why this happened.

 

1 nurse , 1 GP , 1 Shrink

 

I just wrote to him.

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Do you have Mental Health problems.

 

Why would your GP be concerned about you - have you visited the surgery recently and perhaps given the GP cause for concern ?

 

No, in fact the only evidence of his intent ( my Gps ) I do have is a letter last Nov he sent clearly saying he was satisfied to leave things as they were unless I contacted him for help...suddenly this

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Your description of a sudden visit by 3 people like that 'on medical' grounds sounds to me very much like what happens in England when someone is 'sectioned' under our Mental Health Act 1983. Happened to my sister. Usually this is, initially, for 'assessment' under section 2, and basically comes into operation when a doctor considers that a patient might be at risk of harm to himself\herself or to others.

 

That Act largely doesn't apply in Scotland but the one summarised here does:-

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_(Care_and_Treatment)_(Scotland)_Act_2003

 

I am not at all familar with the statute, but, looking just at the summary, it might be the case that your GP issued an 'emergency certificate' with the intention not so much of detaining you but persuading you to accept more assistance from professionals. Pure guesswork on my part, but it's a theory. I would go ask the GP.

 

Yes , I agree .

 

I was sectioned once but that was 11 yrs ago due negligence of my illness ( Ehlers Danlos Syndrome ) and they're trying to do it again it seems because my family has complained to them ( they are in denial of it )

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