Claimant commitment confusion

[sillygirl1]

Unfortunately it would lead itself to multiple fraud applications being pushed through the system - part of the point of being unemployed now is being at the beck and call of the current government unemployment policies and procedures.

[trebormoinet]

Work program provider wants to video record a mock interview as part of workshop, I am reluctant to undertake such a task and stated this to my advisor. was informed I would be mandated to comply if I refused to be video interviewed.

 

 

Obviously I can refuse and fail to participate but I cannot afford to be sanctioned.

[unclebulgaria67]

Ask why the video is required and for their Data Protection officer to provide you with the legal explanation required for its usage, period it will be stored for etc.. Under the Data protection act, you do have rights over this and they must satisfy these rights.

[Mr.P]

Follow this up with a formal complaint to the DWP, via your MP if necessary.

 

I bet they would object if you were to record any/all meetings, so perhaps drop this in to the conversation if they persist.

[obiter dictum]

This must come under Article 8 ECHR

 

As the Work Program provider is operating under Government Contract, the Convention will apply

[ericsbrother]

wear a burka and carry a large tape recorder.

[GeneralSod]

wear a burka and carry a large tape recorder.

 

Ha! Love it! Or tell them that you are a member of Equity union and your agent will expect a large payment for any film work you do!

[mr_mastiff]

If the video is to be used as part of group exercise then the advisor would need your permission before using it. He as no right to force you to appear on a video. I do not know your circumstances but if have any MH problems such as an anxiety related or disorder related to image then a formal complaint to the DWP is in order in this case.

[citizenB]

Would you be provided with a copy.

[trebormoinet]

This video interview is part of a series of workshops preparing me for something called candidate pool, I am expected to dress for the interview as I would if going for a real interview, the purpose of the video is so that we can review the mock interview afterwards in all its glorious detail.

 

With regard to mental health issues I am beginning to think there must be something wrong with me to not just blindly comply with everything I am instructed to do, it does seem trivial to refuse such a request but everyone who knows me knows not to take my photograph, my kids and grandkids have no photos of me but it is not something I would ever have thought I should see the doctor about nor something I would mention in my job seekers agreement, I have said that if mandated I would still refuse to participate.

 

So maybe I should go to the DWP and have it recorded as an exception that I have a fear of being photographed/ videoed and hopefully they will accept my word without me undertaking any medical examination, they accepted my fear of heights without any medical evidence and also colour blindness both exclude me from certain types of work, if I have fear of photographed/videoed recorded at the DWP then I can use that maybe to block my work program provider from mandating me to undertake the video interview.

[trebormoinet]

Would you be provided with a copy.

I have no idea but if it is recorded digitally then I would think it would be possible to get a recording.

[GeneralSod]

This video interview is part of a series of workshops preparing me for something called candidate pool, I am expected to dress for the interview as I would if going for a real interview, the purpose of the video is so that we can review the mock interview afterwards in all its glorious detail.

 

With regard to mental health issues I am beginning to think there must be something wrong with me to not just blindly comply with everything I am instructed to do, it does seem trivial to refuse such a request but everyone who knows me knows not to take my photograph, my kids and grandkids have no photos of me but it is not something I would ever have thought I should see the doctor about nor something I would mention in my job seekers agreement, I have said that if mandated I would still refuse to participate.

 

So maybe I should go to the DWP and have it recorded as an exception that I have a fear of being photographed/ videoed and hopefully they will accept my word without me undertaking any medical examination, they accepted my fear of heights without any medical evidence and also colour blindness both exclude me from certain types of work if I have fear of photographed/videoed recorded at the DWP then I can use that maybe to block my work program provider from mandating me to undertake the video interview.

 

Just tell them you believe the camera steals your soul! (It would help if you have tribal ancestry?) You'd be amazed what you can get ESA for these days, so if they mandate you just jog along to your nearest GP and get a sick note. Apparently being fat is a disability these days, so why not photophobia! Give it a go, if successful it'll get the jobsworths off you while you look for a real job.

Best wishes.

[trebormoinet]

Just tell them you believe the camera steals your soul! (It would help if you have tribal ancestry?)

 

I did consider appealing on religious grounds but I am already marked down as a jedi knight regarding another issue.

[GeneralSod]

Haha! More power to you mate! I feel a disturbance in the DWP! There are rebels aboard this ship!

[Mr.P]

This video interview is part of a series of workshops preparing me for something called candidate pool, I am expected to dress for the interview as I would if going for a real interview, the purpose of the video is so that we can review the mock interview afterwards in all its glorious detail.

 

With regard to mental health issues I am beginning to think there must be something wrong with me to not just blindly comply with everything I am instructed to do, it does seem trivial to refuse such a request but everyone who knows me knows not to take my photograph, [...] I have said that if mandated I would still refuse to participate.

 

There is nothing wrong in not wanting to be videoed or photographed. I also go to great lengths to avoid having my image recorded for what ever lame excuse.

 

If you do get mandated to undertake this mock interview, agree to participate as long as no recording equipment is used. Put it in writing so that there is a record of your objections, and then create merry hell if there is a camera in the room when you attend.

[Conniff]

This video interview is part of a series of workshops preparing me for something called candidate pool, I am expected to dress for the interview as I would if going for a real interview, the purpose of the video is so that we can review the mock interview afterwards in all its glorious detail.

 

 

This would make sense to go through with you and show you your mistakes so you could see them personally. I see nothing wrong with this method of teaching, but I don't think you should be forced to do it.

[obiter dictum]

Personnel interviews are hardly used anymore, you would think they would know that

 

The majority of permanent staff employment is secured through employment agencies first. Employers tend not to advertise vacancies through the usual media streams. That is except cold calling sales, security, etc. In other words, Low-paid low skilled work

[trebormoinet]

There is nothing wrong in not wanting to be videoed or photographed. I also go to great lengths to avoid having my image recorded for what ever lame excuse.

 

Thanks for that, at times I feel like a freak of nature when attending the WP with my protestations but I have a stubborn streak that refuses to budge when I feel aggrieved by something.

 

As for your suggestion to record them I am going to request that I am allowed to video all workshops so that I can review and learn from them at my leisure and any objections I will use as my own defence.

 

If all goes well at the mock interview then we passed onto something called candidate pool and that will throw up a whole heap of new issues, I printed of and gave them the withdraw consent form when I first attended and it states,

Part 7: My disclosure to a Third Party

If [Provider’s and or/Subcontractor’s name] reasonably requires me to disclose my personal data with any specific Third Party,[8] for example an employer, recruiter or recruitment agency for the purposes of applying for a job or another training provider to assist me become more work ready, please supply me with sufficient written information and a MAN so I can share my personal data on a confidential basis, with the Third Party myself.

 

 

I believe this scuppers how the candidate pool works for them so I can see them not being happy when I bring that up.

[Conniff]

If you look in any of the broadsheets, there is a myriad of high salary jobs advertised.

[trebormoinet]

This would make sense to go through with you and show you your mistakes so you could see them personally. I see nothing wrong with this method of teaching, but I don't think you should be forced to do it.

I agree it could have benefits for those who wish to undertake the activity.

[obiter dictum]

If you look in any of the broadsheets, there is a myriad of high salary jobs advertised.

 

 

For Graduates

 

26% of Graduates fail to secure this level of employment. The average is applying for 20 jobs before they secure the relevant employment as to their skills base

 

Most get stuck in the fast food industry such as McDonalds or bar work

 

Before i moved onto ESA from JSA, the benefit adviser stated that if i put down my University Qualifications or disability then i would be sanctioned for making myself unemployable. Then she gave me jobs to apply at Morrison's etc as a check out operator. Her excuse was that i was making myself overqualified for these positions if i disclosed them or on my CV

 

The jobs offered on the Government Universal Jobs Match that claimants have to subscribe to are low paid menial jobs with no security, and almost all agency work links

[trebormoinet]

This country does not suffer from a skills shortage, the truth is most people in work are over qualified and yet skills shortage is always in the news.

[obiter dictum]

I agree the majority of people in work are over qualified but::

 

We do have a definite skills shortage. A quarter of all skilled placements remain unfilled

 

Last year we had nine areas of skills shortages, now we have 43 areas. Every single type of engineering is in short supply, from mechanical to software, civil to electrical,"

 

My source is the CBI

 

It takes 3 to 4 years to become a competent tradesman

 

This shortage can be placed directly back to when the Government came into power in 2010. They withdrew all funding for employers to take on apprenticeships. Any cost of an apprentice was then placed on the employer

 

The simple fact was that as people retired, there were no qualified people to take there place. That is why this country now relies on qualified bricklayers predominantly from Poland in the current house building program

 

Manpower said that foreign bricklayers were being hired to work for £1,000 a week - double the normal amount paid to bricklayers - due to the lack of UK talent.

[citizenB]

For Graduates

 

26% of Graduates fail to secure this level of employment. The average is applying for 20 jobs before they secure the relevant employment as to their skills base

 

Most get stuck in the fast food industry such as McDonalds or bar work

 

Before i moved onto ESA from JSA, the benefit adviser stated that if i put down my University Qualifications or disability then i would be sanctioned for making myself unemployable. Then she gave me jobs to apply at Morrison's etc as a check out operator. Her excuse was that i was making myself overqualified for these positions if i disclosed them or on my CV

 

The jobs offered on the Government Universal Jobs Match that claimants have to subscribe to are low paid menial jobs with no security, and almost all agency work links

 

 

There must be something that can be done about this. Not the first time someone has posted that they have been advised to "lie" on their CV ?

[Mr.P]

Before i moved onto ESA from JSA, the benefit adviser stated that if i put down my University Qualifications or disability then i would be sanctioned for making myself unemployable. Then she gave me jobs to apply at Morrison's etc as a check out operator. Her excuse was that i was making myself overqualified for these positions if i disclosed them or on my CV

 

If there are gaps in your education/employment record, a potential employer would want an explanation. At which point, you could lie about the (minimum) three year gap, or tell them that you were in higher education. Neither option would be acceptable to many employers.