58mph in a 50mph - i'm an idiot I know, but any idea of the fine?

[Myfamily]

Ok, I know I was in the wrong, I have not had a speeding ticket in over 10 years, I am normally very observant of the speed limits.

 

Can anyone advise if I might be offred the speed awareness course of if not what the fine and points would be for this?

 

Many thanks

Edited April 7, 2015 by dx100uk
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[Sidewinder]

Hi - I was caught on the Kent side of the crossing - again in a 50mph limit but doing 62mph and I was offered the speed awareness course. It was a no-brainer really - the fine is £100 with 3 points or the SAC cost £85 with no points and no need to declare to your insurer. I have just seen that Essex SACs are £100 so they have brought theirs into line with the fixed penalty amount, but you still don't have the issue of points.

 

Court cases are for those caught doing more than 25mph over the limit or where you are looking at a possible ban under the totting up rules.

 

Although the 'rules' for eligibility don't seem to be published (I think the ACPO recommendation is around 10% plus 9mph over), so I think you are highly likely to be offered the SAC as you have no speeding convictions in the last three years

[JoeyJoeC]

10% + 9pmh? I thought it was 10% + 2mph?

[DragonFly1967]

10%+2 is the ACPO guideline for enforcement.

 

I've not heard of the 10%+9 figure, but it seems about right for a summons to court rather than a FPN (10%+9 would be 64 (in a 50) so anything above that and you'll be needing your suit)

[Aretnap]

Although the 'rules' for eligibility don't seem to be published (I think the ACPO recommendation is around 10% plus 9mph over), so I think you are highly likely to be offered the SAC as you have nospeeding convictions in the last three years

They have been published. Can't find the actual document right now because ACPO has just been replaced by NPCC whose website is atrocious, but the key section is to be found here, among other places

 

http://www.richardsilver.co.uk/motoring-offences/speeding/

 

Scroll down to ACPO Speed Emforcememt table.

 

Note that whether or not you're offered a course depends entirely on your speed, and whether or not you've done a course previously in the last 3 years. Previous convictions, or lack of them, don't matter.

[Sidewinder]

There is also a BBC link here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13022347

[supermick]

I wonder if you could argue that, with such a narrow margin, 57, your indicated speed, itself not perfect, will be affected by the tyre pressure. (i.e. the indicated speed will depend on the diameter of the wheel and hence tyre pressure).

[SabreSheep]

Sadly not, it is your responsibility to make sure your vehicle is road worthy and this includes having the tyres at the correct pressures.