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    • I think I still remain to be convinced that a court would not find the seller's offer to take the puppy back and give the OP a full refund both reasonable and acceptable.   Ignoring that this is the sale of a puppy, isn't this more akin to the private sale of a second-hand car?   I don't really know what the phrase:  "I recently bought a puppy from a home breeder. They have never breed dogs before and aren't a licensed business" means.  Is this a business to consumer sale, or is it simply the opportunistic private sale of puppies from a domestic litter?  I think the OP needs to establish this because it's not clear to me - yet.   AIUI, if I as a private individual privately sold, say,  a car with umpteen non-apparent faults or defects with it, but I was honestly unaware of them and could not be expected to be aware of them, then I'm not liable for any breach of contract when those faults and defects manifest themselves to the buyer a week later.  Isn't that what worried private sellers of cars are told here when aggrieved purchasers threaten to sue them?  It's not immediately obvious to me why this is necessarily any different - unless this is clearly a business to consumer sale.   The OP also says:  "Our puppy was sold as having passed a full health check from Vets4Pets", and so far as I can see this isn't disputed.  Unless that health check revealed the dental problem the OP is now complaining about, but the OP never was shown it (seems unlikely that the seller would mention it but not make the results available), then I think the seller may well be entitled to rely on it.  What more could they do to ascertain the health of the puppy?   I think this is not necessarily a clear-cut claim, and from the way the OP describes the breeder I think the question whether this is a consumer sale or a private sale may not have a black or white answer.     1.  The OP mentions following advice to buy puppies bred from a "home pet" (or similar such wording).  Not clear if this was the case here, but if it was, doesn't this suggest a private rather than consumer or trade sale?   2.  The OP also suggests that the health of the puppy was misrepresented, but is this necessarily correct?  They say the puppy was advertised as having had a "full health check", but that's not the same as saying the puppy was actually healthy.  And if it was a private sale, is the seller required to declare health problems they are aware of if they aren't specifically asked?
    • Ok,    I thought it may of helped as their DN stated 2 installments in arrears when it was issued on 10/2/17, but it would infact only have been 1 installment overdue 17/01/17.   I will keep to what I already know and stop over thinking further issues. 😁    
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Assuming that the debts will die with me, what’s the harm of £1 a month. Precious little available for £1 a month really, to avoid the hassle!

You do make a fair point though, about control.

H

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There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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Because the second you pay them again, even a quid, it resets the statute barred clock.  I never paid Capquest  a  penny, I ignored all their letters, and texts, put them to the back of my mind, and guess what, it's now 30 days from being statute barred.

 

If they sent me a PAP letter tomorrow the debt would be statute barred by the time they could produce a claimform, and I'm really glad I took the advice here and totally ignored them.


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Hi,

did you get visits?

im guessing I would for an almost £10k debt. I think they’d see it as worth it. 


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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Visits are an empty threat. It doesn't matter how big a Capquest debt is, there is always something wrong with it. 


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11 hours ago, hamadryad said:

Assuming that the debts will die with me, what’s the harm of £1 a month. Precious little available for £1 a month really, to avoid the hassle!

You do make a fair point though, about control.

H

The debts already dead/defunct/unenforceable. WHy would you want to pay them something when you dont have to?

1 hour ago, hamadryad said:

Hi,

did you get visits?

im guessing I would for an almost £10k debt. I think they’d see it as worth it. 

If someone is dumb enough to come to your house,  tell them in whatever way you want to jog on or youll call 101 for harassment.


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your cat has more rights 

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if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

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Hi dx,

 

i have been through rough some of the past paperwork for some of these things, and came across a letter from crapquest which said they were no longer responsible for that particular matter & were therefore closing the file.  

Your thoughts?

 

Also, can I just get rid of all the past crap from these people?

 

h


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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sounds like ethat ones dead too.

 

pers i'd scan everything to PDF before you ever shred stuff.


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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It’s a letter from a while ago, and it’s a matter they’ve contacted me about recently.

theres teams of paper to scan in!


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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Hi dx,

 

seems an an awful lot of work just to store all that paper.

woukd there be any consequences of me just shredding all of it?

 

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There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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yes they have 6yrs

so get on with it.

 

dx

 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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I’ve stored them elsewhere now, out of the home.

‘Chatting’ with London1971, I get the impression that I can safely ignore the letters. I hope that that is the case!

When I get a reliable laptop/pc, (and quiet time to myself), I’ll sort all the scanning. I do have an external hdd that I can put them all on, at least.

 

H


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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well you've been here +8yrs now you should know the score by now...


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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I have problems with my memory though, so I occasionally need reminding.

Anyway, I’m going to ignore all the letters, and put it to the back of my mind.

just hope nobody turns up here to hassle me!

 


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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Hi all,

 

just checked my credit report on Credit Karma, and I’ve had a search from ‘Lexusnexus’.

do I need to be concerned?

Since they are a data mining company from the states, is this the precursor to potential legal action?

 

H


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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uk too they own several uk tracing services

cant hurt you.

 

dx

 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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So no need to worry then.

Thanks.

I’ll ignore everything for now. I’ll check, of course, but they can swivel now I’m 67!

 

Is there a way I can stop these thieves though?

id sure like to become anonymous!!

 

H

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There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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well I would hope that by now ...some 293 posts and 8yrs of being here you've learned that's what they are.

don't be anon ever ..never run from debt face them out

as you've found 9/10 its all hot air. 

 

just never ignore a letter of claim


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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Well now there’s a change of tactics. Almost certainly due to this Covid virus though.

Got an email from them (after they’d refused email communication due to me not providing loads of personal info) saying that there’s another important document’ waiting for me on a link.

When I click the link, it says I have to put in all that personal info.

easting my time? Or should I complete the form & read the so-called ‘Important document’?

 

All the best, and I hope you are all staying safe,

 

H


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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Who?


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Anything important will arrive by post.


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It was Crapquest.

 

H


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

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you should already be blocking and bouncing any/all email addresses of any deca's that use that method of free harrassment.

 

dx


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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Just direct it to junk,  I blocked them years ago, they are still sending crapola to my spam folder about 'important documents', despite the fact the debt has been SB's for a year.


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They are now directed to spam!

 

Cheers,

 

H


There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries.

On such a full sea are we now afloat, and we must take the current when it serves,

Or lose our ventures.

 

:tea::tea:One the other hand......Sod this, I'm off!:tea::tea:

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