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Hello

 

I recently left a 5 a side league at the end of our 3 season as it was run so bad.

 

A month later I received a letter stating I owed them £250 and that a county court judgement would be issued against me if I refuse to pay.

 

Is that likely to be won?

 

We had to cancel 3 out of 50 fixtures as we couldn't get a team out and they charge 74 quid each time.... rip off!!

 

So I emailed them saying I wouldn't pay it all as they ran it so badly and she replied offering to half the fines and it went down to 139 quid but I had 7 days to respond or it would revert back to 250. So I responded simply saying I wanted that in a signed letter and I've just had a reply saying I dnt need that and her email is all I need as confirmation of our agreement. I never agreed to it? Also she never put a date when the agreement has to be completed so has she screwed herself over and can I just ignore it now?

 

Also they don't have my original signed contract just one we signed after he second season to allow us to carry on.

 

Any help would be much appreciated.

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I think they might have to send you a proper Letter before Action if they were to take any legal action against you. However, I will try and find someone who might be able to offer more advice.

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I noticed you started 4 x threads on this issue - can you please just stick to this one?

 

I have merged all the threads into this one.

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It annoys me when people say they will get a CCJ against someone..a CCJ is one possible outcome of a successful court proceeding, but only IF the applicant is successful and only IF the defendant does not pay up.

 

I wish they just say we will start legal proceedings, but I guess a CCJ sounds more threatening.

 

Whether this would be successful would all depend on whether their was an original contract agreed between the parties and what is said, even if some penalty clause was included, possible defences may be that the other side didn't fulfil their obligations (i.e it was badly run) or whether it was an 'unfair term', we have no idea of its success unless we know what this 'contract' said.

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Other people have had similar issues, see http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?404625-Champion-Soccer-requesting-money and http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?390932-Help-with-Champion-Soccer-letter

 

They probably won't decide to issue a claim over 250quid. If they do issue a claim, whether they would win depends on what is mentioned in the contract you agreed to when you signed up. You should read that contract and any T&Cs carefully to see what they say - very often companies like this do not operate in accordance with their own T&Cs.

 

If you are being charged an additional 'penalty' that can be challenged.

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All it says on the original application form is that I am responsible to fulfil and pay for all fixtures in a season.

 

there are no terms and conditions on the actual contract which is a very basic form.

We had teams not turn up 3 times and were not even informed which they could have dealt with a lot better so surely they didn't fulfil there obligation. There's nothing about paying fines for cancelling games on the contract just in the hand book, they are fining us for cancelling g games even though we gave them plenty of notice.

 

So many teams have dropped out so that's proof it's a badly run league doesn't it?

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It also said in the form that I agree to the rules but I was not sent these till after I had signed up. In he hand book it mentions if you do not show up for a fixture but inform them before 430 you will be charged double match fees. It's a unfair term as we simply didn't have enough players those weeks and in their handbook it says they will do all they can to help us get players but when I asked for this help I got told to turn up early and ask players from other teams.

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Mate, to be honest, you were the one, I was hoping would reply, I was about to send you a PM!!!!

 

When they said they were going to take you to court, how long ago was that you reckon?

 

These guys are proper gits, they throw a lot of legal jargon at you, and it massively had me worried!!

 

Cheers

 

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I replied basically saying I wouldn't pay the fines just what I owed for games we played and they suddenly halved the debt. Since that email I never replied to it and no letters have come through I think that was in February

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They seem to be just bluffing man. I think I'll bang them an email, just stating pretty much what you have said, and see what they say. Also a guy in another thread has been very helpful and pretty much seems to think they are all bullers.

 

Cheers for the time man, I really appreciate it.

 

Will email them tomorrow, and let you know what they say.

 

Cheers again

 

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I replied basically saying I wouldn't pay the fines just what I owed for games we played and they suddenly halved the debt. Since that email I never replied to it and no letters have come through I think that was in February

 

 

they are not FINES

 

 

only a court can fine you

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Did you ever hear anything else about this? I've had letters from champions soccer and icon collections chasing me for money and I've now had one from pjh solicitors as well.

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willy waving

 

 

ignore them

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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