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    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
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After getting a positive result last week in the court as to one of my past credit indiscretions, another pops up.

 

At the time i used my brothers business mailing address as i was Sofa Surfing. I had put the account into dispute with the original creditor. This was in 2009

 

In april last year i received a letter from a well know DCA phishing at my home address, i ignored it.

 

I have just received another letter by a another well known DCA

saying that they were given my new contact home address as they could not contact me at the mailing address.

 

 

They then ask if i am not the named person to contact them so they can update their records (Phishing exercise)

It is obvious DCA 1 has asked DCA 2 to collect on their behalf

 

This debt relates to a well known finance company who specialised in ripping off sub prime clients with APR and fees and is of a considerable some

 

This account becomes statute barred in september, another 8 months

 

Any advice will be welcomed as the last thing i am going to do is phone them

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Difficult to give specific advice unless you give more specific details, not least name names. We know most creditor / purchaser / DCA behaviours. Without background information we're simply guessing.

 

Don't imagine using a different address will help you. It won't. The owner can get a CCJ at the last address you gave the creditor whether you live there or not.

 

You don't need to respond to fishing. No point.

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My question is to fending off until it becomes statute barred in eight months

 

This is not debt evasion as that **** bag finance company ripped me off in every conceivable way knowing my financial circumstances. They have had more then there fair share pound of flesh off me

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The info in the first post shows that the new dca is on a phishing trip. Ignore it.

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Received another letter today from the DCA collecting on behalf of the original DCA. That being Robinson way. In the same envelope from Robinson way was a letter from the original DCA saying it has been passed to an external DCA (Robinson way) and that I am to negotiate affordable and a sustainable repayment plan

 

 

Who are Robinson way??

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Another silly DCA with no legal powers. I mean come on. bad debt being passed around. Now youve got a dca collecting on behalf of a dca etc etc.

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Just sit and wait if it get tricky then send off a CCA request if it was for a loan/cc/HP in the mean time watch out for the oldest trick in the book, which is for the DCA to issue against you at the LAST CONFIRMED address they had for you, therefore getting a CCJ by default

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its simply to make you think it is going up a chain of command

or getting more serious or moving toward litigation.

 

 

the original DCa will be part of the same group.

 

 

all they've done id passed it to the next bloke at the next desk

in a diff coloured skirt

he has put a diff letterhead in the same printer.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Another begging letter from Robbers Way saying the debt to their client (Another well known DCA) remains unpaid

 

These are not what I call threatening in nature, quite the opposite

 

They say the account remains unpaid and that they will bend over backwards to help me clear it.

 

This alleged debt becomes statute barred in six months and I suspect all they want is a nice friendly chat, and get me to acknowledge the debt as well no doubt.

 

Should I return this latest bit of spiel to Robbers Way saying not at this address??

 

 

That is true as I am moving Monday to Ireland.

 

 

This will time out for the next six months in them trying to trace me or should I leave well alone?

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Your best just ignoring them, i have ignored 1st Credit now for 7 years, Even now they still write to me now and again, I know it has been Statute Barred now for 2 years nearly, but the odd letter doesn't bother me

 

Personally, if they were going to take any real action, it would have happened a long time ago

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Notice of assignment only sent in Feb. Usual procedure is of course persuasion first, litigation or give up second, so it's early days, even if s b not far off.

 

CWK is remarkably keen not to name orig creditor although those who know Hoist's behaviours shouldn't have too much trouble identifying it anyway.

 

I wouldn't respond to anything from rw at this stage . . . as long as someone is able to keep an eye on mail, just in case they attempt CCJ by default.

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Quick update

 

I have been ignoring a debt from Capquest that is quite large. I have been receiving letters from Robbersway saying they are acting for their client Capquest.

 

My brother took over my phone line when i moved and now Robbers way are phoning him asking for me, he never returns any messages as he had them chase him in the past. Only way they could have got that number will be experian when i did that 30 day trial. Only 5 people were aware of my home number.

 

Checking my Credit file this mornng the account through Capquest has been marked as settled, though still default status.

 

 

Have they sold it to Robbersway??

 

Last point, this debt becomes statute barred in four months and off my credit file in 9 months

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prob sold to the hoist group then

that would tally with the settled marked from cabot

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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as mentioned earlier in the thread robberway are hoist

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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We really cant say if they quick to litigate or not, CQ. You say it is a large amount, in which case they might not leave it too long to make contact.

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I would be tempted to ignore unless/ until you receive a letter before action, saying we WILL issue

on such and such a date

 

at which point I would then send a CCA request

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