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I am hoping I can pick some peoples brains here about contracts and employment law etc.I have worked for a company for 4years now and have a contract that I signed when I started I work 12 hour shifts on a pattern of 2 days and then 2 nights followed by 4 days off.

 

This is one block of 7, then after block 7, I have 18days off. This is also a job that is at sea, but within coastal waters no more than 12miles offshore.New staff have been taken on over the last 2 years on a new type of contract deeming the same job to be a Multi Skilled role, meaning they company will train these people for other roles within the company.

 

(Roles that I am not allowed to do, because I am not being trained. Jobs I would like to be able to train for. However also as part of this new contract, they have to do 16 shifts in a year extra at flate rate, not at an overtime rate.

 

These hours can also be used for training purposes. So say for instance I have to do a first aid course, for me, that is a days overtime, they get the hours taken off of the prepaid shifts they have to do. So in effect they are being paid upfront to do the overtime, but on a flat rate. I realise this is swings and roundabouts, but the difference is, I cannot do the training except anything that I require to keep my certification in date. Also I am being denied a financial difference and the reason being, many people on this contract aren't actually doing the extra shifts.

 

But by them not doing them, I am. But they are being paid the same at the end of the year as me, but I am having to actually do the work to earn the extra money.Also some of my colleagues on contracts before I started, when the company was owned by some other bank or business is on almost 10k pa more than me.

 

 

Also it is recognised that he is lazy etc. HR and my manager will not look at my salary or discuss my contract although it is completely immoral that in effect you have 3 different contracts and rates of pay for the same job. Suggestions? Laws? All suggestions and advice welcome.

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immoral is not illegal, and nether is bad management. there's no legal route here.

 

what have you tried already?

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Conniff,

 

Please accept my humble apologies for not sitting by my computer 24hrs a day awaiting your personal message. As stated I work shifts, of which I was on until 0700 this morning. So I am actually in bed and was sleeping until my phone beeped indicating an email which seeing you found it so unacceptable that I was not awake to reply earlier I felt that I best reply instead of getting the much needed sleep. How remiss of me not to stay awake.

 

Thanks also for pointing out that I have not replied to the large number of posts I have made since 2012. Which having just looked is a grand total of 3 posts. 2 of which were done today and the other one had only one reply. Which I private messaged that person to say thanks.

 

As for my failure to add in page breaks, after 11hrs at work at sea, im sorry it appears that on my screen they had breaks!

 

So seeing you are part of the site Team, I think you need to learn some customer service! Without posters your site does not get advertising. Now how do I report abuse?

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Emmzzi, many thanks for your reply and hopefully you understand that having been on nights I was asleep and unable to respond immediately.

 

The only things I have tried so far is meeting with my manager and the HR team to discuss this.

 

I was led to believe that you could not have two people doing the same job on different money unless one was more qualified etc or time served. To bring people in afterwards who are less qualified and less experienced and give them more money to me is just wrong.

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I was led to believe that you could not have two people doing the same job on different money unless one was more qualified etc or time served. To bring people in afterwards who are less qualified and less experienced and give them more money to me is just wrong.

 

It would only be illegal if the reason for the different treatment is defined as a protected characteristic under the Equality Act such as race, gender, age and so on. Otherwise, it is perfectly legal for an employer to pay two different people differently for doing the same job.

 

Unfortunately, isn't illegal. Sorry - I know that isn't the answer you were hoping for.

 

It is bad management so you can certainly discuss this with HR and management and perhaps a union if you feel you are being unfairly treated. Ultimately you can't use the law to force the employer to give you the same pay and benefits as someone else.

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For other readers of this post, I have recieved an apology for the unprovoked abuse by their admin member and they asked if they would like the responses removed. I have requested an apology direct from the admin concerned and when I receive it then yes. However, as yet no apology recieved from the admin concerned. Appalling behaviour I feel.

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For other readers of this post, I have recieved an apology for the unprovoked abuse by their admin member and they asked if they would like the responses removed. I have requested an apology direct from the admin concerned and when I receive it then yes. However, as yet no apology recieved from the admin concerned. Appalling behaviour I feel.

 

I do prefer if you keep threads to employment issues, personally. Matters discussed in private message should stay there. FYI site team are volunteers and any advertising revenue basically pays site hosting. No one is a professional customer service rep. and everyone is allowed an opinion.

 

I hope you find a helpful union rep; do let us know how it goes? Others in the same situation will find your experience helpful.

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They're still representatives of CAG, volunteers or not. That's like saying that a Samaritins volunteer is entitled to abuse/insult a caller. I respect your opinion, as your not representing their brand. The admins rant is wholly uncalled for.

 

Beìng a newbie to this, I'm still learning the protocol, however telling me that I have not responded to posts is a complete lie. Prior to my recent posts, both of them, I'd posted once previously back in 2012. The responded I thanked personally by PM, to which now it appears is wrong.

 

I'm sure that if this person came at you in a similar fashion, you too would feel like I do.

 

This is supposed to be, as I understand it, a support and advice forum. Not a place to be abused by the admins.

 

But like you said, I will update once I have advice from the union rep.

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Nope.... I saw a question were you saw an attack. And not a question worth sweating it over I am afraid! It's the internet.... all kinds of opinions. You learn to ignore the bits you personally don't like. Saves a lot of energy.

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I think that this thread is running completely off-track now.

GM, I'm sorry that you are so angry with us. If you want to continue the discussion on your situation please do cut and paste your first post into a new thread and carry on from there. Hopefully that thread will stay on-topic.

 

I think that the time has come for this issue and for this thread to be closed.

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