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Does the letter include a pack to fill in with employment and income details etc, as per a Letter of Claim?  could you post it up as pdf just to be sure with all personal details etc redacted.

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Hi,

 

Please see attachd

I've only included the actual relevant content of the letter.

 

Nothing in the letter regarding any employment or letter of claim details,

just the letter attached and one from PPS stating that my account has been forwarded to BW Legal. 

 

CR

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They have used the lazy way fo sending a LBA, basically following the rules for 2 years ago rather then the current ones. tyhey have done this because it saves them a few pence in processing costs.

 

I woud respond to this as though they had done their job properly and complain about it as part fo your submissions to court if it gets that far rather than argue the toss now.

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stop using google

research on CAG using our custom google search which comes up as a box below after hitting the top squares logo .

 

until/unless you get a titled..letter of claim.. from BW yes you are safe to scan/ignore

 

as for the additional unicorn food tax, get reading here as above.

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hey guys,

 

Some further correspondence from BW Legal attached. 

It's worth noting I never received a letter from POPLA or PPS regarding the appeal result as the correspondence from BW suggests. The first correspondence I received regarding the matter post POPLA appeal was the letter received a couple of weeks (attached earlier in this thread).

I assume I can just sit on this as technically, nothing has changed?

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CR

BW Legal 2.pdf

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the letter is nowt to fuss over but do contact POPLA and ask them why they didnt send you a letter about your appeal and if they say they did you want a copy of it plus a copy of the operators evidence bundle as you have not seen this either. If they say no then you remind them of your rights under the DPA/GDPR

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Hi CAG,
 

So two updates for you:

1. I have today received a Letter of Claim from BW Legal on behalf of PPS with the relevant information along with a questionnaire & an income expenditure form.

2. POPLA failed to reply to my e-mail requesting information thus I have heard nothing from them and received none of the information regarding the case.

I assume I just go about filling in the questionnaire on the LBC stating I owe no debt and return it?

 

CR

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you've been here since 2015 on this 

why are you not bothering to research what you need to do?

 

no you do not use the form..

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I thought I had previously reviewed a thread talking about the requirement to reply with the questionnaire, hence asking for clarification - obviously I'm incorrect. Better to ask and get it wrong than go ahead and make a mistake though right? 

I'll post up a copy with the personal information redacted for review shortly.

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The EB snotty letter speaks more of that you know they  have no leg to stand on, using "their" form merely encourages them to carry on hoping you will fold and cough up  if they send a Claimform

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Filling in and sending their questionnaire is NOT a good idea, EB's style letter is way to go.

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just type in BW Letter of claim 

in our custom goggle search box that comes up after hitting our top squares logo

 

plenty of example of the snotty/insulting reply to send

 

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi CAG,

 

I sent the insulting letter as suggested. I received a quality reply from BW that I just wanted to update you all with for a giggle.
 

The letter contained the normal rhetoric and nonsense case law, but the real giggle came in the form of the "evidential" imagery they attached to the letter.

They attached pictures of a car that has nothing to do with me and was dated 2 years after my PCN was issued. I've followed it up with a snotty letter and I'll update you when I receive a reply.

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shame you shouldn't of alerted them.

could have been a very useful weapon in court.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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If you haven't sent the letter, best to keep the info. to yourself and then demolish them in court if it gets that far.

 

I notice that, even though the LBA was your final, last, ultimate chance to pay before they took you to court ... they still haven't taken you to court and are still sending silly letters.

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Yes sit on that and make the point in your defence that the evidence they relied on in their LBA concerned another vehicle  and possiby mutter about incompetent lawyers breaching the GDPR so PPS know that they have been treated shoddily by the peopel who they ahve paid to pursue this.

wont win you prizes but the judge will have their hackles up for another example of  this firm's poor work. they are well known and occasionaly commented upon in court

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