Job centre enquiries

[Love or hate me]

Eh?

 

What do you mean?

Can the JC contact your employer??

 

Sorry for any confusion

 

it was for guidance on job centre contacting any employers you have applied to or called or sent any cvs/cover letters.

 

i hope you understand now.

[Bazooka Boo]

Sorry I wouldn't know, what permission have you given them?

[Dazza1983]

If you are talking about jobs you have applied for yourself then no then the jobcentre can not contact them.If the jobcentre gave you the job to apply for then yes they can contact the company to find out if you applied for the job.

[Love or hate me]

If you are talking about jobs you have applied for yourself then no then the jobcentre can not contact them.If the jobcentre gave you the job to apply for then yes they can contact the company to find out if you applied for the job.

 

 

Thanks for the info so i guess this would also be the same for companies you call to meet your job requirements once a week? if you put down the company you call on your booklet ujm or whatever the job centre can't contact them?

 

hope you understand.

[jasta11]

Extract from the DWP document 'Decision Making & Appeals; Gaining Customer Feedback From Employers';

 

'Must Does: Meeting Data Protection Legislation

Solicitors Branch has previously advised that we have to inform employers why we are asking for the information and what the information will be used for. To continue to meet DPA legislation you must clearly explain to the employer why you are asking for the information and what it will be used for. You must also make the employer aware that they are not obliged to provide feedback.

Note: You can no longer send employers a list of customers submitted to their vacancies. Feedback from an employer can only be requested where an advisor has matched a Jobseekers Allowance customer to a vacancy.'

 

So basically, if they found you the vacancy and formally told you to apply for it, they can contact the employer. If you found the vacancy yourself, they can't without your permission. In some cases - like Local Government jobs - if they tried to contact the employer it can actually result in your application being disqualified. I've had to warn advisers about this rule a few times when they thought they could contact who they like - they can't!

[jasta11]

I've never applied for a job via UJ yet and don't intend to either, as the site is so unreliable. I've created 'searches' before - purely to have something to show the JC - and have found info missing when I've next logged in. Now I print it out immediately.

 

Always make sure you have a lot of jobsearch evidence from other sources, such as agencies and your own perdonal email; don't rely solely on UJ.

[bcham]

ive noticed ,i normally apply for 3 jobs a a day.but some are missing from the work activity list. on some days the record only show ive applied for one job.?

[andydd]

It is an awful site. I applied for ten plus jobs yesterday but my application history is blank which seems odd

[pauls33]

I have been getting the same for about a week

I use the book as well and also take screenshots, I do add missing entries back in with a note saying the system had deleted it, makes my uj history look a total mess now

 

 

Have others with issues been using it for more than a year?, just wondering if its ignoring the year when doing a cleanup over night, so it instead of getting rid of april 2014 entries it just gets rid of april entries

 

 

I have started putting a sequence number against entries, so I can easily see what is missing, compared to screenprint

[mikeymack2002]

Some of you may find this article of use see here http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/16/dwp-jobs-website-universal-jobsmatch

[Love or hate me]

ive noticed ,i normally apply for 3 jobs a a day.but some are missing from the work activity list. on some days the record only show ive applied for one job.?

 

guess your having same problems.

 

i know i am writing them down on my ujm as i take screenshots so they can't possibly tell me that i have done it as there is no delete button soon as you click save to activity history.

[Love or hate me]

It is an awful site. I applied for ten plus jobs yesterday but my application history is blank which seems odd

 

well the way the website has been the last few weeks no surprise that you are loosing items on your history they seem to be doing it without checking there website for any issues.

[Love or hate me]

I have been getting the same for about a week

I use the book as well and also take screenshots, I do add missing entries back in with a note saying the system had deleted it, makes my uj history look a total mess now

 

 

Have others with issues been using it for more than a year?, just wondering if its ignoring the year when doing a cleanup over night, so it instead of getting rid of april 2014 entries it just gets rid of april entries

 

 

I have started putting a sequence number against entries, so I can easily see what is missing, compared to screenprint

 

 

am glad someone is having issues also.

 

i have had the issues for few weeks and nothing seems to be getting done.

 

i take screenshots after writing everything down on ujm and print the ones of that are missing items from my activity history.

 

i agree it makes my ujm history a mess.

 

could be a issue with clearing issues but even any site with issues will tell you to clear your history cookies etc so wouldn't make it any help.

 

yeh well i have lost at least 10 entries over the past few weeks and to me that is a big number especially for a site that was having no issues in till at least a month.

 

Many entries you lost ?

[Love or hate me]

Some of you may find this article of use see here http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/16/dwp-jobs-website-universal-jobsmatch

 

Thanks for the article.

 

am sure if ujm did end a lot of people would be happy but i still doubt it will end.

 

but we shall see what happens next 6-12months.

[pauls33]

Not sure how many entries I have lost, only noticed the issue last week, spotted the previous day showed no jobs applied when I knew I had, so compared it to my manual book I use and found them gone from the site

 

 

I usually put 5 to 15 manual entries in per day, and at least 50% of these are gone the next morning

 

 

7 items in UJ today, I expect tomorrow morning there might be 3 of them still showing, others gone

1 day last week I added 12 items to it, the next morning only 4 where left

[Love or hate me]

Not sure how many entries I have lost, only noticed the issue last week, spotted the previous day showed no jobs applied when I knew I had, so compared it to my manual book I use and found them gone from the site

 

 

I usually put 5 to 15 manual entries in per day, and at least 50% of these are gone the next morning

 

 

7 items in UJ today, I expect tomorrow morning there might be 3 of them still showing, others gone

1 day last week I added 12 items to it, the next morning only 4 where left

 

that is bad but suppose the job centre won't care.

 

i put entries in a day 2 are jobs 1 for the website i check when i update cv cover letter and some days the company i call a week.

 

and i lose the odd job i lose what website i put down i checked a lot i lose when i put what company i called also. its annoying.

 

i hope a lot of people are contacting the job centre forum on ujm website so they hopefully take notice of people complaining.

 

feel sorry for people that loosing all that they are putting down on ujm.

[Love or hate me]

Why does the ujm not let people know when its going down for upgrading!!?

 

i cant even put what i have applied for today now and when i do it will go down as tomorrow date.

and no doubt the advisor will be happy to sanction me for not putting anything down,

 

pi**ed off that not letting people know there upgrading there system when that is what a website is suppose to do inform people on there website!.

[Love or hate me]

I hope ScreenShots of the 2 jobs i have applied for can be enough evidence.

 

i have applied for 2 jobs a day for the past 2 weeks+ so hopefully backs up,

 

just wish they would do upgrading at 12 and onwards instead of 3 hours or whatever before 12,

 

does anyone know what time ujm started upgrading.

 

someone i spoke to was saying a jcp that is in england there jcp twitter was telling people there was gonna be a upgrade but yet how is that useful for people who live in scotland? and plus i asked someone to check facebook as i don't use it and all they have is that there upgrading that was at 11 but yet that was like 2 hours after it had started upgrading so they don't even puton there ujm that there upgrading which i think is disappointing for people using it and not been told that its gonna be down.

 

sorry if i seem annoying just cant help it.

[Dickyb0b]

if you apply for a job through the jsa website directly with your covering letter and cv etc, it wont apear on the active history tab, you have to input it your self

[superj]

I myself have had issues with UJM job search results this last week but of another type than what OP decribes.

I actually contacted them and made videos that show a flaw in the way job results are displayed for all work in a specific distance of were i live, posted today.

 

Basically if i search for all work in a distance of 100 miles of my home the results come back are not correct and will be missing the majority of jobs that should come back.

For instance on wednesday i ran a search for all jobs within 100 miles of my home but the results did not show a job that was listed on that same day that was 70 miles away.

Basically rendering the search useless for people looking for all work in a set distance around their area posted today, as all JSA claimants are required to do.

 

Their initial response was that i was to clear all browser cache, cookies etc. Thats great but i dont have any of that set to be saved any way through personal choice as im sure many do. I made another video clearly showing that i do not save any of that stuff (cache, passwords,cookiesform data etc) but cleared it regardless before showing how the search does not show the results of another job just 26 miles from my home when i searched in a 40 mile radius. This is not just an occasional bug, its in all searched i do for all work in set distance from my home posted that day. If i had to have a rough guess at how many jobs did not show in the results that should have i would say that no less than half the results were missing.

 

I have the videos uploaded to YouTube and on my desktop but have them listed private and provided them the url , i can tell from YouTube analytics that they did view 2 of the Videos several times. They later replied via email that the reason the jobs did not show in search results was ude to "Complex algorithms" and that the missing jobs would be further back in the pages further back. Not wanting to be arkward, but, i did check this after reading their email reply and found they were in fact incorrect and the jobs still did not show further back in the results.

 

Like i say i have the videos of this major flaw in search results, im still making my mind up as to if i should conact a reporter that is currently covering anything about UJM as this needs resolving.

 

Also their site was down for hours mid week while i was logging my job searches meaning i could not enter the details fo my log, i only manged to get some of it logged untilt he site was back online next day.

In short UJM is hit and miss, it has its uses in terms of logging your job search (when its not offline) but for job searching in a set distance from your home, its useless. I find jobsite.co.uk to be much much better for me.

[superj]

Makes me wonder if any poor soul has been sanctioned for not seeing a job posted that day near their home when searching the UJM results of vacancies in set distance from theire home, could you imagine that?

That would be awfull, i hope its never happened but theres a possability it has.

[andydd]

Luckily I found a job quickly so didnt have to use it much, but it is truely awful.

[Lapsed Workaholic]

It's funny how those who use UJM like good little claimants appear to be having more trouble that those who have asserted their right not to use it at all.

 

 

If using it is giving the adviser excuses to raise Doubts then an obvious solution would be to exercise one's right to have one's JSAg/CC altered so as to exclude its use altogether.

[jasta11]

Indeed. Someone on the whatdotheyknow.com site put in a FOI request asking the DWP to back up with solid evidence their vague statement that 'thousands of people have expressed satisfaction with using UJ'. I eagerly await the excuse given in reply

[Love or hate me]

i would like to know as to why a company not going to name them have to inform the job centre because there a partnership.

 

this is the info they have on there application form "we work in partnership with Job Centre Plus and therefore have agreed to notify them of anyone who joins us having used their services. To enable us to share this information with them, please indicate if you have been unemployed for a period of 6 months or more."

 

why is this the only company i have noticed that have put this?

 

when the job is not even on the job centre website?