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Ray, why do i have to give advice, yes, its an opinion.

Viktor, glad you are interested. Cell phones all work, no overhead.

If all that i have read on here was true there would be 6 year sentences handed out.

Because all you people do is bleat instead of realising what has gone on you wont get anywhere.

Get real gents, its not a holiday company, its not bernie madoff, there are trading problems yes, but, only since this forum started, strange that.

I am in for the long hall, a serious investor, if you cant stand the heat............i have more than enough work with my wife to keep LS going, or should i tell her to drop company, work for me on a contract and post nonsense with the rest of you.........smell the coffee.

 

 

Seems to me as if someone else is feeling the heat but hasn't the guts to admit it.

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Gallery! This is an advice forum, not a social media site! and that's what we did when the OP raised the problem of non-protected deposits and LL not getting rent.

It just flowed from there.

This is not the first thread on the subject.

But from what's been said there does seem to be some illegal activity!

So unless you can offer some practical advice to the OP and others that appear to be owed money, there is no point in you posting anything!

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Gallery,

 

 

Please enlighten us as to how your deposit is protected with her and also are you dealing with her directly as LS as both of the companies are being struck off.

 

 

In addition, the first posts about troubles with regards deposit goes back to the 19th September 2013, so quite a while ago.

 

 

Legislation states:

 

 

"From 6th April 2012, deposits for all assured short hold tenancies (ASTs) in England and Wales must now be protected within 30 calendar days of receipt by the landlord, this change is as a result of the Localism Bill 2011."

 

 

Clearly with M&W Lettings this has not been the case which is why so many of us are on here, the deposits should have been protected by law and if they had then there would not be a problem.

 

 

This forum is a very useful medium for all of us that are owed monies by both LS and JC to discuss the situation and move forward to a successful outcome involving us getting back what we are rightfully owed. It also acts a warning to others so that they hopefully will not be out of pocket as much as all of us.

 

 

There are plenty of reports in the media about rogue agents taking clients deposit monies and not returning them, they have been prosecuted and found guilty. There is a very interesting article on BBC Newsbeat about the scale of the problem and apparently it is now of national priority to sort out this type of illegal behaviour.

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Rest my case. You all talk about it but do nothing. Thats what this forum is about i suppose.

Good luck or will i be seeing comments to each other..............what happened etc, we all talked about it. Gotta laugh.

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Gallery you mention cell phones in one of your posts so are you actually in the UK?

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Perhaps they dont go to bed at 10pm where they live....

Perhaps they dont care about unlawful activity because they are outside the jurisdiction of the UK or EU. However, the property is here so not immune from the force of the law.

No you don't.... :roll:

 

you just get up earlier than some.... :-)

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Hi, I am a former landlord who is owed money from the same person but a previous company. I had an hour long meeting with the police today about the years of activity which has brought about so much hassle for so many people. Their advice was to get in contact with as many people as possible via forums and other landlords and to contact the "Action Fraud" You can report a fraud to Action Fraud! Can't post the link, but google it.

If enough people report their dealings with this person then it WILL be investigated, otherwise they will open another agency soon and do what they do best (Take people's hard earned money). Please, please, please, pass this on or respond.

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It's in the interest to make people aware who have been affected that there is something that can be done.

 

Hello there.

 

Yes, we know people need to be aware of what's happening and that is why we have this thread. However, you don't need to post oneliners which appear to be trying to build up your post count, which is why we might delete some.

 

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My apologies, it wasn't for the post count at all.

After my meeting with the police yesterday I was very riled because it seems all that can be done is to gather as many people as possible and to contact the right people, who will investigate and will pass it onto the police as a criminal matter.

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Hi HB

Thanks for understanding!

This the first time i've used a forum, I've read somewhere that somebody joined in with a handle (jclemo) defending LS with threats of IP addresses being reported to the police.

Not sure of the legalities regarding naming names but it appears initials are used frequently.

Are the site team a group of landlords or tenants who fell victim to LS?

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Hi HB

Thanks for understanding!

This the first time i've used a forum, I've read somewhere that somebody joined in with a handle (jclemo) defending LS with threats of IP addresses being reported to the police.

Not sure of the legalities regarding naming names but it appears initials are used frequently.

Are the site team a group of landlords or tenants who fell victim to LS?

Regards,

TDTB.

 

Hello again. To explain a bit more, CAG is run by volunteers and we have dozens of forums, one of them being about problems with rentals.

 

This particular thread has attracted people who have had problems with M&W lettings. CAG is hosting the thread to allow you all to air your views, but we remain neutral.

 

I hope that explains. :)

 

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Hi HB,

Thanks for the explanation, as I said before I am new to forums.

I along with 6 other landlords were with Alastair Stuart & Sly LTD back in 2004 to which the company was dissolved owing us a total of £48,550.00, so i've been following the directors movements for a while especially after the £28,000 benefit fraud which led me to M & W and then to this forum. I know that there has been companies in between them, their history I don't know. But what does interest me is how to take further action in stopping other from becoming victims.

Do you have any advice on how to connect with people and make it a police matter and finally put an end to this?

Kind Regards,

TDTB.

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Just do what you're doing. People can contact police individually and discuss how to proceed here.

 

This is probably a very silly question but are M&W affiliated to any professional body like ARLA?

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Hi Caro,

They claim to be affiliated with a governing body but research shows that being incorrect, hence why they can keep people's deposits. A governing body like ARLA periodically check accounts to ensure such behavior doesn't happen.

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If people have problems with a company they can report them to ARLA who will investigate and take disciplinary action, assuming of course that the company or person are members. I'm sure they'd want to know if people falsely claimed to be members too

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I have just been involved in making a complaint to Action Fraud about a completely different agent to the one in this thread.

 

I am curious to know if any of the landlords who used M&W have made such a complaint and whether anything came as a result.

 

In my case Action Fraud have stated that they believe fraud has been committed in my case (holding deposit taken with no intention of providing accommodation) and we are supplying further information. I believe they need to hear about a number of cases for the same people before they take action.

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I have just been involved in making a complaint to Action Fraud about a completely different agent to the one in this thread.

 

I am curious to know if any of the landlords who used M&W have made such a complaint and whether anything came as a result.

 

In my case Action Fraud have stated that they believe fraud has been committed in my case (holding deposit taken with no intention of providing accommodation) and we are supplying further information. I believe they need to hear about a number of cases for the same people before they take action.

 

 

Unlikely you will hear anything from AF. They are just a front to make people believe they can take action and something will happen.

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