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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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as a family we do get full council tax credit, we are still required to pay £26 per month toward it,

 

 

i usually pay monthly on the 1st of each month £26,

 

 

there has been once or twice when it has been late and i have received reminders,

which were paid at the first possible instance,

 

 

Decembers installment has not currently been paid and

i have just received a

'Council Tax Loss Of Instalments' letter'

which tells me i have to pay the full remaining amount £52 by December 15th,

 

 

i only got this letter today and its December 12th.

 

if i can't pay the £52 by or on monday,

which i probably can't,

then what is the next step the council will take,

 

 

is it straight to court, how long will that take,

 

 

what if i get a hearing but pay the £52 before the hearing date

would i then be viable for any other costs,

 

 

how long have i got to find the £52 before it becomes more than that.

 

Thanks

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The final notice is issued for the 3rd default from payment of the instalment dates/amounts.

 

The final notice will allow 7 days to pay in full, after this period the council can issue the summons.

 

Some council's will hold off on issuing the summons if the account is brought up to date before the summons is issued and give you a second chance but it's up to each council.

 

If you cannot pay before the summons then any costs will be added and these become recoverable so if they aren't paid then the council can ask for the liability order just for the costs.

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The final notice is issued for the 3rd default from payment of the instalment dates/amounts.

 

The final notice will allow 7 days to pay in full, after this period the council can issue the summons.

 

Some council's will hold off on issuing the summons if the account is brought up to date before the summons is issued and give you a second chance but it's up to each council.

 

If you cannot pay before the summons then any costs will be added and these become recoverable so if they aren't paid then the council can ask for the liability order just for the costs.

 

Hi, thanks for the response,

 

 

just to clarify, this letter is dated 8th December and

says payment needs to be made by 15th (7 days) but

i only received in the post today, the 12th :/

 

Also are you saying that if a summons is issued for say 3-4 weeks and i pay before then, i am still liable,

and they will go to court for the summons costs,

can these costs be argued in any way,

 

 

Also the council tax period runs until march 31st 2015,

how can i get a court appearance for £52 when their is still 4 months on current years left.

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Also the council tax period runs until march 31st 2015, how can i get a court appearance for £52 when their is still 4 months on current years left.

 

 

 

Council Tax is due in full on April 1 each year. As a dispensation Councils allow instalment plans but if breached the total outstanding becomes payable immediately - that is why the letter says you have lost the right to pay by instalments.

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have you told them the matter will be resolved by XX date?

 

 

its a rubber stamp Liability order adding £50ish

 

 

is this the 'water' element of you CTAX

the rest being met by the CTAX benefit?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi,

we are entitle to full ctax benefit but

 

 

as of last year we have to pay a % toward it,

 

 

last year it was £13 per month and

this year it is £26 per month,

 

 

No i have had no vocal contact with them as yet,

 

 

My concern is, this 7 days is up on monday, so they could, in theory issue a summons on Tuesday, That has to be wrong,

 

 

The questions i have are if i get a summons id assume it would be for 2-3 weeks time,

 

 

if i pay the £52 before then

can i not challenge the charges part of the summons in court on the ground of, the council has not incured £50+ worth of actual money

+ ive read something on here about paying over 12 months and not 10,

this has never been explained to me by the council.

 

 

If i had 2-3 weeks i could get the £ and pay it,

but i think its crazy to possibly issue a summons on tuesday baring in mind this was only in my post box on friday :(

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go talk to them

no good keeping them in the dark.

 

 

strictly speaking you don't get a summons as such

they simply get the LO rubber stamped.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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have you told them the matter will be resolved by XX date?

 

 

its a rubber stamp Liability order adding £50ish

 

 

is this the 'water' element of you CTAX

the rest being met by the CTAX benefit?

 

 

dx

 

Also, sorry, but what do you mean by 'water element'

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how do you pay for your water bill?

if you don't pay one

that's probably what this

 

 

might even say so on the council tax bill?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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My concern is, this 7 days is up on monday, so they could, in theory issue a summons on Tuesday, That has to be wrong,

 

 

The questions i have are if i get a summons id assume it would be for 2-3 weeks time,

 

 

if i pay the £52 before then

can i not challenge the charges part of the summons in court on the ground of, the council has not incured £50+ worth of actual money

 

Normally, once the summons has been issued the authority add those costs to the outstanding amount which must be included in the payment to stop them making the application to the Magistrates' court for a liability order.

 

You can only guarantee avoiding the costs if you were to pay the outstanding liability (£52) before the summons is served (which may be Tuesday).

 

Because you are on reduced payment the council may have a policy (depending on the authority) that agrees to waive the cost, if for example you sign up for direct debit or other arrangement.

 

The question of whether you could challenge the costs after receiving a summons even if they're paid before the court hearing is interesting.

 

A response from Reigate and Banstead Borough Council suggests that you could.

 

All summonsed cases have to be dealt with at the Court Hearing even if the Council wishes to apply for some cases to be reported as paid, adjourned sine die, withdrawn etc

 

Also Torfaen Council.

 

The cost of the hearing attendance is included as this is clearly part of the summons process, at the hearing we have to provide details of the accounts that were issued with a summons on the initial complaint list and those that have been withdrawn . We also supply evidence of why the summonses were initially issued. Therefore, the court hearing is in relation to all of the summonses issued and then we ask for the reduced number of cases as liability order.

 

 

Leicestershire & Rutland Court service recognise that the costs are open to challenge:

 

The Council has calculated the cost of issuing a summons and reviews this annually. The Council approaches the Court service annually along with some other local authorities whom use the Leicestershire & Rutland Court service. Officers provide evidence to court officials and substantiate the level of cost being applied for. The court officials consider whether the level of cost is reasonable, asks any questions or asks for further information and approves the summons cost level for that year; with the proviso that it is open to challenge against those whom we proceed.

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