Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like

Natwest charges Refunded, now after packaged account fees - didnt know about them


Ftgab19
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 2938 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi all,

 

I've had charges for going into an unarranged overdraft with my NatWest account and I'm not working at the minute so wondering what would be the best steps to take.

 

Any help much appreciated

 

Thanks

Andrew

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

Have you made the bank aware that you have a financial hiccup. I think you can make a claim for the return of the charges under hardship rules. I will find someone who can help.

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Uploading documents to CAG ** Instructions **

Looking for a draft letter? Use the CAG Library

Dealing with Customer Service Departments? - read the CAG Guide first

1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy - HERE

2: Take back control of your finances - Debt Diaries

3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors? Read Here

4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

BCOBS

1: How can BCOBS protect you from your Banks unfair treatment

2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

3: Banking Conduct of Business Regulations - The Hidden Rules

4: BCOBS and Unfair Treatment - Common Examples of Banks Behaving Badly

5: Fair Treatment for Credit Card Holders and Borrowers - COBS

Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi citizenB,

 

Thank you for a quick reply, I called my bank and they canceled access to anyone who had access to take payment and told me to call another department of theirs to set up a payment plan to pay of the overdraft. they also sent me some information in the post about rights and that.

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

Sounds as though they are prepared to help you - what you really want their assurance on is that they don't continue to add more charges and interest !

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Uploading documents to CAG ** Instructions **

Looking for a draft letter? Use the CAG Library

Dealing with Customer Service Departments? - read the CAG Guide first

1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy - HERE

2: Take back control of your finances - Debt Diaries

3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors? Read Here

4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

BCOBS

1: How can BCOBS protect you from your Banks unfair treatment

2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

3: Banking Conduct of Business Regulations - The Hidden Rules

4: BCOBS and Unfair Treatment - Common Examples of Banks Behaving Badly

5: Fair Treatment for Credit Card Holders and Borrowers - COBS

Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi ft

 

You need to personilze the templatelink3.gif below. Banks don't like templates.

 

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/s...laim-fees.html

 

(Your name and address)

 

 

(Name and address of bank)

(Date)

 

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

 

Account number:

 

 

I am writing to reclaim all bank charges on my account(s) (since X date, when you believe you entered financial hardship). I am unhappy that these charges have been applied to my account and in this letter I am registering my complaint and I request that you immediately stop applying further charges to my account.

 

 

I need you consider my case as a matter of urgency as I believe I am in financial hardship. This is because (state reasons: i.e. you are unable to meet priority financial commitments including, but not limited to, council tax, food and utility bills. If your income includes benefits state what they are, and give details of any circumstances which have changed recently i.e loss of job, relationship breakdown, serious illness, stating how this has affected your financial situation.) I attach evidence to show my monthly income and outgoings.

 

 

I therefore request that you repay all my default charges since (X date) which total (X amount).

 

 

Under the FCA guidelines, (name of bank) has 8 weeks to resolve my complaint. I trust that you will deal with my case within this period. If not, I will refer the matter to the Financial Services Ombudsman.

 

 

I look forward to receiving a full response to this letter within 14 days

 

 

Yours faithfully,

 

 

 

 

signature

(PRINTED NAME)

 

 

You should also include the following documents:

EVIDENCE OF INCOME/ OUTGOINGS

A COPY OF YOUR BANK CHARGES

EVIDENCE OF BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT

Link to post
Share on other sites

if you are receiving benefits into the account

 

 

you might find bcobs useful too.

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?414497-Success-with-Satans-bank-using-BCOBS

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi rebel11,

 

What name and address should I send it to? the account is with NatWest but on the overdraft letters there's two addresses.

 

Retail Banking

NatWest

PO Box 1130

Bangor

LL59 5ZD

 

National Westminster Bank Plc

Registered Office: 135 Bishopsgate, London, EC2M 8UR

 

I don't have the letters for all of the bank charges, would a statement print out with the letters I have be enough? Also what benefit information will I need to send? I'm on Universal Credit, £249.28 a month. And for the proof of outgoings will a personal budget sheet work?

 

Thanks

Andrew

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

Send it to their Registered Address, Recorded Delivery. Statement print out would be fine. Send the information you have listed, if they want any further information, they will write to you.

 

Hi rebel11,

 

What name and address should I send it to? the account is with NatWest but on the overdraft letters there's two addresses.

 

Retail Banking

NatWest

PO Box 1130

Bangor

LL59 5ZD

 

National Westminster Bank Plc

Registered Office: 135 Bishopsgate, London, EC2M 8UR

 

I don't have the letters for all of the bank charges, would a statement print out with the letters I have be enough? Also what benefit information will I need to send? I'm on Universal Credit, £249.28 a month. And for the proof of outgoings will a personal budget sheet work?

 

Thanks

Andrew

Link to post
Share on other sites

How do I find out what there registered address is? not meaning to sound stupid, I've just had problems in the past with sending stuff to the wrong address.

 

And ok I will include a copy of my budget sheet and a copy of my welcome letter from Universal credit.

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

You found it.

 

Hi rebel11,

 

What name and address should I send it to? the account is with NatWest but on the overdraft letters there's two addresses.

 

Retail Banking

NatWest

PO Box 1130

Bangor

LL59 5ZD

 

National Westminster Bank Plc

Registered Office: 135 Bishopsgate, London, EC2M 8UR

I don't have the letters for all of the bank charges, would a statement print out with the letters I have be enough? Also what benefit information will I need to send? I'm on Universal Credit, £249.28 a month. And for the proof of outgoings will a personal budget sheet work?

 

Thanks

Andrew

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Rebel11,

 

I'm uploading the documents I will be sending for you to see, I would appreciate your feedback as you've been very helpful in explaining the procedure I needed to follow.

 

 

Many Thanks

Andrew

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Ft

 

All banks have different 'Hardship' policies, so my advice is 'generic' to get the ball rolling. The docs you've posted up look spot on. Why not send the 'hardship' letter, Recorded Delivery. Then let them decide what they want, it will cut out the 'paper tennis'.

 

Is this the only period of 'charges'?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi rebel11 thanks for your reply,

 

So are you saying to send this hardship letter first or with my complaint?

 

Also could you post a hardship template or a link to a one please.

 

Many thanks

Andrew

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

Post 5, that is a 'Hardship letter/template. You've already completed one post 11.

 

Hi rebel11 thanks for your reply,

 

So are you saying to send this hardship letter first or with my complaint?

 

Also could you post a hardship template or a link to a one please.

 

Many thanks

Andrew

Link to post
Share on other sites

Right sorry I understand you now, I've posted my letter with 1st class recorded delivery.

 

I'll keep this post updated with there correspondence.

 

Andrew

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just had Natwest trying to talk to me on the phone.

 

 

They rang the house asking for me,

 

 

I answered and was told they tried calling him on his mobile.

 

 

Good job I forgot to update them I had a new mobile number :lol:

I said he (me) wasn't in, so they said they would sent me a letter.

 

My letter got to them on the 17/11/2014 8:48am,

 

 

I look forward to what they will say about my charges.

 

Andrew

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

GOOD NEWS!

 

NatWest send me a letter today about my complaint.

 

I'll upload the letter but the main points are:

 

Even though NatWest believe I haven't been unfairly indebted and all the charges have been applied correctly in line with there published Terms and Conditions.

 

Due to my personal circumstances as a good old gesture of goodwill they have agreed to refund all charges and a £90 unarranged borrowing fee.

 

So was £314 in the red, today I'm £17.82 in the good old black! :-)

 

So as thanks to the great people here for helping me out I'll be donating £7 to this wonderful website after posting.

 

Once again many thanks

 

Andrew

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]54428[/ATTACH]

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

[ATTACH=CONFIG]54428[/ATTACH]

 

 

Excellent news and thank you for the donation.. very welcome :)

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Uploading documents to CAG ** Instructions **

Looking for a draft letter? Use the CAG Library

Dealing with Customer Service Departments? - read the CAG Guide first

1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy - HERE

2: Take back control of your finances - Debt Diaries

3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors? Read Here

4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

BCOBS

1: How can BCOBS protect you from your Banks unfair treatment

2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

3: Banking Conduct of Business Regulations - The Hidden Rules

4: BCOBS and Unfair Treatment - Common Examples of Banks Behaving Badly

5: Fair Treatment for Credit Card Holders and Borrowers - COBS

Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Have you confirmed to them that you want to downgrade to a non fee charging account ?

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Uploading documents to CAG ** Instructions **

Looking for a draft letter? Use the CAG Library

Dealing with Customer Service Departments? - read the CAG Guide first

1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy - HERE

2: Take back control of your finances - Debt Diaries

3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors? Read Here

4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

BCOBS

1: How can BCOBS protect you from your Banks unfair treatment

2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

3: Banking Conduct of Business Regulations - The Hidden Rules

4: BCOBS and Unfair Treatment - Common Examples of Banks Behaving Badly

5: Fair Treatment for Credit Card Holders and Borrowers - COBS

Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

Hi citizen,

 

 

Your welcome :) and I've not yet, what should I put in the letter?

 

 

 

 

Thanks

Andrew

 

 

Have you confirmed to them that you want to downgrade to a non fee charging account ?

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi citizen,

 

 

Your welcome :) and I've not yet, what should I put in the letter?

 

 

 

 

Thanks

Andrew

 

Andrew, I would just let them know that the account you have at the moment, is not one suited to your needs. Would they please switch you over to a "Basic Bank" account.

 

:)

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Uploading documents to CAG ** Instructions **

Looking for a draft letter? Use the CAG Library

Dealing with Customer Service Departments? - read the CAG Guide first

1: Making a PPI claim ? - Q & A's and spreadsheets for single premium policy - HERE

2: Take back control of your finances - Debt Diaries

3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors? Read Here

4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

BCOBS

1: How can BCOBS protect you from your Banks unfair treatment

2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

3: Banking Conduct of Business Regulations - The Hidden Rules

4: BCOBS and Unfair Treatment - Common Examples of Banks Behaving Badly

5: Fair Treatment for Credit Card Holders and Borrowers - COBS

Advice & opinions given by citizenb are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO GIVE ADVICE BY PM - IF YOU PROVIDE A LINK TO YOUR THREAD THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER ADVICE THERE:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

Hi all again,

 

Had a charge on my NatWest account and I'm not sure why. As far as I can remember I've not once been overdrawn for awhile. Should I send a letter asking what I've been charged for?

 

Thanks

Andrew

We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened.

NatWest Problem *****Refunded*****

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...