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Went to tax OH's car on line on Friday only to find the MOT ran out the week before. Oops!

 

 

Booked it in for MOT same day (31st October) but it failed on a couple of minor points which were to be put right today. Turned out one of the minor points wasn't so minor and we're currently trying to source some bits. All in hand but could take a few days.

 

 

Meanwhile car is neither taxed nor SORN, but hopefully will be sorted in the next few days.

 

 

Question is should it be SORN in the meantime or is there any leeway?

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No, there is no leeway. Not with the DVLA SS!

 

Get it SORN just to be on the safe side. That will automatically be canceled once you tax the vehicle, but it saves you getting nasty letters (or worse) from Swansea. I've seen 3 (different) DVLA 'enforcement' vans today on my travels, so with these new rules, they're out, and hunting in packs :)

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The car is genuinely off road, as at the garage but I will get it done. Thanks dragonfly.

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with car tax you can do it over the phone. Wonder if you can with SORN as well?

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with car tax you can do it over the phone. Wonder if you can with SORN as well?

 

You can! Did it last night as per post above. :)

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Maybe off topic, but today I received my road tax reminder and it says that "all drivers must be covered by motor insurance when they use a motor vehicle on the road or any other public place".

Does this mean that we can keep a vehicle on private land without insurance and still be able to tax and mot it?

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Does this mean that we can keep a vehicle on private land without insurance and still be able to tax and mot it?

 

 

If not insured and not SORN, that could be the different offence by the registered keeper, if it doesn't meet the insurance requirement - s.144A, Road Traffic Act 1988.

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Under recent law, it doesnt matter where the vehicle is kept. It must be sorn if it isnt insured or taxed. It's a very simple law, but a HUGE money maker for the government and friends.

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road tax reminder ... says that "all drivers must be covered by motor insurance when they use a motor vehicle on the road or any other public place".

 

 

If not insured and not SORN, that could be the different offence by the registered keeper, if it doesn't meet the insurance requirement - s.144A, Road Traffic Act 1988.

 

So DVLA are being less than crystal clear or complete in their Reminder (unless there is more than the quote given).

For what motive? Out of Court settlements that go straight into their own pocket? Or am I too cynical?

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DVLA arent obliged to even send out a reminder. Thats why they sometimes do it, then when they dont, or they sense an easy chance to place a fine and get some cash, they say they arent obliged to.

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DVLA arent obliged to even send out a reminder.

But if they do decide to send a reminder, surely it should be 100% accurate.

A private trader would feel the wrath of Trading Standards (at best) if they tried being partially accurate and partially deceptive as to the position.

 

The word 'entrapment' comes to mind but I am unsure how to incorporate it in this post!

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Sorn should be done within 2 weeks. I wouldn't worry too much as they are not strict on this, I have left a car over a month before declaring sorn and it has been fine. My last car I left it 3 weeks and have just sorn it no problem.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?434722-DVLA-Fine-for-non-taxed-vehicle

 

Don't need the V5C to sorn it if you don't have it.

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