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Hi

 

 

can any body help me I have had the same with pt loans

 

 

ml loans and

mlloans

 

 

cant find these companies

 

 

they have taken over £500 from my account and worried they are going to take more

 

 

I have a young family to feed I wa't my money back and to stop them from taking more

 

 

I have bills due to come out

 

 

I m worried

 

 

an any body help

 

 

have asked my banks not to allow any more payouts

 

 

but am waiting to here from them

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Hi can any body help me I have had the same with pt loans ml loans and mlloans casnt find these companies they have taken over £500 from my accout and worried they are going to take more as I have a young family to feed I wasn't my money back and stop them from taking more as I have bills due to come out I m worried can any body help I have asked my banks not to allow any more payouts but am waiting to here from them

 

 

Yes you need to call the companies directly and ask them to cancel all your details and refund your money back. PTLoans and ORLoans are both the same company and can be contacted on 01403 215760 or 01403 215761. Good luck.

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for ref, you mentioned s155 cc act;

'Right to recover brokerage fees.

(1)[F1Subject to subsection (2A),]the excess over [F2£5] of a fee or commission for his services charged by a credit-broker to an individual to whom this subsection applies shall cease to be payable or, as the case may be, shall be recoverable by the individual if the introduction does not result in his entering into a relevant agreement within the six months following the introduction (disregarding any agreement which is cancelled under section 69(1) or becomes subject to section 69(2)).

(2)Subsection (1) applies to an individual who sought an introduction for a purpose which would have been fulfilled by his entry into—

(a)a regulated agreement, or

(b)in the case of an individual such as is referrred to in section 145(2)(a)(ii), an agreement for credit secured on land, or

©an agreement such as is referred to in section 145(3)(b) or © or (4)(b).

[F3(2A)But subsection (1) does not apply where—

(a)the fee or commission relates to the effecting of an introduction of a kind mentioned in section 146(5A); and

(b)the person charging that fee or commission is an authorised person or an appointed representative, within the meaning of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000.]

(3)An agreement is a relevant agreement for the purposes of subsection (1) in relation to an individual if it is an agreement such as is referred to in subsection (2) in relation to that individual.

(4)In the case of an individual desiring to obtain credit under a consumer crediticon agreement, any sum payable or paid by him to a credit-broker otherwise than as a fee or commission for the credit-broker’s services shall for the purposes of subsection (1) be treated as such a fee or commission if it enters, or would enter, into the total charge for credit.'

legislation.gov.uk

 

 

 

 

GENERAL NOTES ON CHARGEBACK & Continuous Payment Authority & BACS

.....

We have been telling people to put a letter into their bank instructing them

not to make any payments under any circumstances to these companies

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http://whatconsumer.co.uk/visa-debit-chargeback/- it works!

usually this should be done using the number on your debit card

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banks MUST follow written intructions from their customers !

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This fsa guide has now been updated:

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http://www.fsa.gov.uk/static/pubs/consumer_info/know_your_rights_guide.pdf

http://www.fca.org.uk/news/continuous-payment-authorities-your-right-to-cancel

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Here's the text:

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Cancelling a regular

card payment:

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When you give your credit or debit card details to a company and authorise them to take regular payments from your account,

such as for a gym membership or magazine subscription,

it is known as a ‘recurring transaction’ or ‘continuous payment authority’.

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These are often confused with direct debits, but do not offer the same guarantee if the amount or date of the payment changes.

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In most cases, regular payments can be cancelled by telling the company taking the payments.

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However,

you have the right to cancel them directly with your bank or card issuer by telling it that you have stopped permission for the payments.

Your bank or card issuer must then stop them – it has no right to insist that you agree this first with the company taking the payments.

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Be aware, though, that you will still be responsible for paying any money that you owe.

and that CANELLING YOUR CARD WILL NOT STOP THE CPA

.

..

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New june 2013

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Regulator orders Banks and mutuals to review complaints about not cancelling recurring payments from November 2009.

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Consumers who have set up a regular payment from their account will now be able to successfully cancel that arrangement

by contacting their card provider, the Financial Conduct Authority said.

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The FCA has been examining how easy it is for customers to cancel Continuous Payment Authorities (CPAs)

due either to payday lendersicon or for other regular payments such as subscriptions or gymicon memberships.

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CPAs, which are also commonly called recurring transactions or recurring payments,

are relatively easy to set up but can be hard to cancel, causing problems for consumers trying to manage their finances,the FCA said.

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Now, following the FCA review of how the largest high street banks and mutuals process requests to cancel CPAs, they have agreed that they will ensure that when

a customer asks for a recurring payment to end, that will be sufficient to cancel the arrangement. They have also confirmed that should a payment go through by

mistake following cancellation by a customer the customer will be refunded immediately.

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In addition to securing this commitment, the largest banks and mutuals have agreed to review every individual complaint they have received about the non-

cancellation of a CPA and to pay redress where payments have continued to be made despite the customer cancelling the arrangement. This applies to all complaints

since November 2009 when the Financial Services Authority, the FCA’s predecessor, began regulating banking conduct.

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Clive Adamson, the FCA’s director of supervision, said: “It’s important that consumers are confident that banks are meeting their everyday banking needs. Today

customers can be confident that when they ask for a Continuous Payment Authority to be cancelled – it will be cancelled - and that it can be done easily.

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“We recognise that historically this is an area where some customers have struggled but the banks and mutuals have responded positively to our work on this issue.

From now on we expect them to be getting this right. In addition, they have committed to review past complaints.”

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Also mentioned your displeasure that as whomever took your money had obviously attempted this many times

probably activating your banks own anti fraud software - nobody had the decency to inform my you this was going on.?

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.In the FSA's own words:

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What should I do about a payment from my account that I didn’t authorise?

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Your bank must refund an unauthorised transaction.

Money can only be taken from your account if you have authorised the transaction

or if your bank can prove you were at fault –

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see below.

Contact your bank immediately if you notice an unauthorised payment from your account.

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If you are sure you did not authorise the payment, you can claim a refund.

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However, your bank does not have to refund you if you do not tell it about the payment until 13 months

or more after the date it left your account.

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Your bank must refund an unauthorised transaction

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Your bank may only refuse a refund for an unauthorised transaction if:

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? it can prove you authorised the transaction

– though your bank cannot simply say that use of your password,

card and PIN proves you authorised a payment; or

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? it can prove you are at fault because you acted fraudulently,

or because you deliberately,

or with gross negligence, failed to protect the details of your card, PIN or password in a way that allowed the transaction

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How quickly must my bank refund me for an unauthorised transaction?

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The bank must make the refund immediately unless it has evidence that one of the above reasons applies.

Your bank may ask you to answer some questions and fill out a form confirming what has happened,

but it cannot delay your refund while it waits for you to return the form.

If the bank has evidence that one of the above reasons for refusing a refund applies,

it may investigate before making a refund

but must look into it as quickly as possible.

If your bank rejects your claim for a refund it should explain why.

If the transaction was on a credit card, the refund may not happen immediately.

But the card issuer cannot charge interest or ask for repayment of the amount unless it can prove you are liable to pay


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I cannot be entirely certain that MLL and PT are part of the same company but this thread suggests they are

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?433070-Numerous-Loan-Brokers-have-taken-various-%A360-finder-fees-help&p=4614678&viewfull=1#post4614678

 

I have obtained this info from the FCA register.

 

MDX Solutions Ltd

 

 

Principal Place of Business Address: 1st Floor, Ridgeland House 15 Carfax

Horsham

West Sussex RH12 1DY

Registered Office Address: Crusader House 145-157 St. John Street

London

EC1V 4PY

 

01403215760

 

 

Contact:

Contact Email:

Peter Hartley

p.hartley@merrywoodcapital.co.uk

FCA interim permission number. 628234

 

I suggest a call to action fraud as well as contacting your bank and raising an issue with the FCA


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Yes you need to call the companies directly and ask them to cancel all your details and refund your money back. PTLoans and ORLoans are both the same company and can be contacted on 01403 215760 or 01403 215761. Good luck.

Also tell them you have been in touch with trading standards and under section 155 of the consumer credit act they have to refund your money. Good luck!!

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