Expedion/ANPR - 'fake' claimform

[morphster]

Hi There,

Got a parking notice back in January this year.

 

My partners ticket was due out at 10:07.

 

They slapped a ticket on the car at 10:17 with my partner returning at 10:20.

I of course appealed against this notice as it was no more than 13 minutes out.

 

The shopping precinct was busy at the time also delaying her getting back to the car.

 

I sent my written appeal to ANPR Ltd. I heard nothing from this.

 

Yesterday morning I receive a letter pack from a solicitor who state ANPR have now instructed them to collect debt

and as such are preparing county court papers to which they will submit in around 14 days time.

 

Can anyone tell me where I stand with this.

 

When I called ANPR they said they wouldn't handle the case no more and I was to contact the company dealing with it.

 

My concern is that baliffs will start knocking if the county court become involved.

 

I'm panicking trying to find the money to get together within 14 days but another part of me is telling to stand firm as

I appealed and heard nothing until this pack arrived.

 

I've heard all sorts of advice on here.

 

Some say ignore and the forum mods say don't ignore.

 

The form they've attached which they claim will sent to Northampton County Court Bulk Centre looks official enough.

 

Any help on which way to proceed would be greatly appreciated.

[renegadeimp]

Bailiffs will ONLY ever be considered if the debt goes to court, the claimaint wins, you dont pay, it goes back to court and the judge allows the use.

 

However, even if you do get court papers ( its a threat only right now), it is very very easy to shoo them off and make the PPC run away.

 

From your info, they are breaking the rules all over the place. Especially sending you a mock form and saying theyll send it to the court. It just doesnt work like that.

[dx100uk]

please scan up the supposed court 'form'

 

**you can post up images/letters by this method immediately..you don't need 10 posts**

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set your default scan page size to A4 less than 300DPI [150 will do]

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets - as a picture[jpg] file

don't forget you can use a mobile phone or a digital camera too!!

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BUT......

ENSURE: remove all pers info inc. barcodes etc

but leave all monetary figures and dates.

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************************* ************************* *******

{DO NOT USE A BIRO OR PEN OR USE SEE THRU TAPE OR LABELS]

************************* ************************* ***********

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DO IT IN MSPAINT.EXE or any photo editing program

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites ...

http://freejpgtopdf.com/

http://www.convert-jpg-to-pdf.net/

..

if you have multiple scans/pics

put them in a word doc FIRST and convert that to PDF

or http://www.freepdfconvert.com/

or

use www.pdfmerge.com

 

convert existing PC files to PDF [office has an installable print to PDF option]

..

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf if

you have many images too rather than many single pdfs

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or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

or use Primo PDF.

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try and logically name your file so people know what it is.

though DONT USE BANK NAMES or CAG in the title

i'e Default notice DD-mm-yyyy

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open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

...

YOU DONT have to put a link to the attachment in the msg box..just upload it ..job done

you can click on your links to check them too!

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dx

[i hate bailiffs]

 

I'm panicking trying to find the money to get together within 14 days .

 

That is exactly what they want, your money from a simple letter

 

If they do send court papers you can beat them as many have already done so

[armadillo71]

First thing - never call a private parking company.

 

You appealed the windscreen ticket and named the driver?

 

And you have had no response untill this letter?

 

Can you name the car park and who the ' solicitor ' is please?

 

This is ANPR and clever Trevor...

[ericsbrother]

They are trying to put the wind up you because they havent followed the correct procedures.

 

They are saying that they will do this or that at some point in the future rather than telling you what they have done, which is a different kettle of fish.

 

Yes, name the solicitor as there are new rules governing the behaviour of debt collection agencies and lawyers involved in debt collecting activities

and there is a good chance this company will come a cropper if they continue making threats like this.

 

ANPR are not getting paperwork ready,

they will lose in court as they havent followed procedure,

as stated so they casnnot rely on the law that would allow them to claim against the keeper of the vehicle.

 

Do not tell these people who was driving at the time and always address them in writing

and as the keeper rather than by your name or as the person responsible for its parking.

 

If you ignore them nothing will happen,

they dont have the power to do anything.

 

If ANPR want some money then they must act themselves rather than employing a rentathreat.

[morphster]

Hi guys. Really impressed by the advice given so far.

 

I've just sat down from coming in from work and my partner has thrown the letter away.

She thought it was rubbish.

 

One thing that stuck out on it the ticket stated 10:07. The photo taken stated 10:17

yet in the persons witness statement he said he observed the car at 12:18 on the day in question????

 

How is this possible?

 

To my knowledge the only people who could go to the Northampton County Court Bulk Centre for a warrant or judgement were councils.

Or am I wrong?

 

If i ignore this will i get a court summons or a judgement filed against me.

[i hate bailiffs]

Hi guys. Really impressed by the advice given so far. I've just sat down from coming in from work and my partner has thrown the letter away. She thought it was rubbish. One thing that stuck out on it the ticket stated 10:07. The photo taken stated 10:17 yet in the persons witness statement he said he observed the car at 12:18 on the day in question???? How is this possible? To my knowledge the only people who could go to the Northampton County Court Bulk Centre for a warrant or judgement were councils. Or am I wrong? If i ignore this will i get a court summons or a judgement filed against me.

 

Think you need to slow down

No warrant no judgment

 

For them to get a judgement they will issue you paperwork

 

You will acknowledge it

File a defence

The court will write to you and you will tell them your local court

You will then have a hearing date

 

All a long process and you can win at the end of it

 

This is totally different to a council ticket

Worrying over nothing is never good

[armadillo71]

First thing - never call a private parking company.

 

You appealed the windscreen ticket and named the driver?

 

And you have had no response untill this letter?

 

Can you name the car park and who the ' solicitor ' is please?

 

 

Can you answer these questions please...

[morphster]

Apologies:

 

I've not called them at all

 

I appealed against the ticket but didn't name the driver

 

No response until now and no acknowledgement of appeal letter

 

Car Park is Cherry Tree Centre, Wirral and the solicitor unknown as partner has disposed of paperwork

[armadillo71]

 

 

 

 

When I called ANPR they said they wouldn't handle the case no more and I was to contact the company dealing with it.

 

 

.

 

 

???

[renegadeimp]

Prob passed it to a pet dca or trying to mislead the person becausevthey know they messed up.

[DBC]

Prob passed it to a pet dca or trying to mislead the person becausevthey know they messed up.

 

That DCA probably goes by the name of "Expedion" (note the similarity in name to a well known credit reference agency) . Once again Trevor has scored an own goal. If he had done some research about that name then he would have found that the Urban Dictionary defines "expedion" as meaning a "complete lying buffoon"" .

[ericsbrother]

what their claim says as fars as times go doesnt matter, it isnt justifiable or enforceable anyway.

Ignore everything that is not a stamped county court claim and that is very unlikely given what has happened so far.

[renegadeimp]

Still waiting on the scanned court form. If it is a mock court form, then they are in very serious trouble. Also NEVER ignore a PPC. Always challenge them. It's much better to nip it in the bud instead of risking it getting to court. Sure, youll still win at court, but its just an extra inconvienience.

[morphster]

Hi Guys,

 

Received a letter today from Expedion DCA.

 

 

My partner was late returning back to the car in January by 10 mins.

 

 

I wrote to ANPR Ltd appealing this and heard nothing at all.

 

 

I did get a letter from Expedion a while ago but my missus assumed it was junk and binned it.

 

 

Another arrived today.

 

 

They have sent a "Copy" of a county court paper advising if I don't provide any lawful reason they will proceed.

 

 

The initial letter states

 

 

"The enclosed draft court papers are not designed the intimidate we are merely giving

you the opportunity to check the content to ensure the details are correct.

 

Any advice?

 

Just been reading through the letters and the photograph has a timestamp of 10:18 on it yet the Court Statement states 10:20

I appreciate it's only 2 minutes however clearly this isn't factual

Edited October 21, 2014 by morphster

[morphster]

Attached is the copy of the "Draft" court paper

[dx100uk]

pdf please

 

 

dx

[dx100uk]

wrong thread..removed

 

 

dx

[dx100uk]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?429957-ANPR-sent-copy-of-proposed-claimform-Daughter-Help-Needed-**Won-at-POPLA**

[f16]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?429957-ANPR-sent-copy-of-proposed-claimform-Daughter-Help-Needed-**Won-at-POPLA**

 

dx100uk,

 

Have you had one too many "sherbets" tonight ?????

[f16]

morphster,

 

I think "dx100uk" is having a "Bad day".

The copy of the "fake court papers" is too small.

PDF please (as per dx100uk post #3).

[dx100uk]

no page 36 onwards

the fake claimform

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?429957-ANPR-sent-copy-of-proposed-claimform-Daughter-Help-Needed-**Won-at-POPLA

could get them in trouble here

 

 

dx

[f16]

I only "jest". I've got it now.

[dx100uk]

when the highwinds blow up here down goes the microwave internet link

 

 

dx