Tory work and pensions minister: Disabled people ‘not worth’ minimum wage

[citizenB]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/15/tory-work-and-pensions-minister-disabled-people-not-worth-minimum-wage-4906892/?ito=v-a

 

 

I think even his own party should be calling for his resignation.

 

I would say that 90% of parliament are not worth what the tax payer is shelling out for them.. especially when they make crass statements such as this ??

 

A Conservative minister has suggested that disabled people are ‘not worth’ the minimum wage.

 

Ed Miliband called on Lord Freud to resign from his post as work and pensions minister after his disparaging remarks, made while answering questions at a meeting of the Resolution Foundation, a living standards think-tank, during the Conservative Party conference.

 

 

[Conniff]

I think there is a lot of 'lets get one up' and it's been taken out of context as usual.

 

[Conniff]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CflUgpNJ41s

[45002]

Well it just shows "The nasty people" are still around in "The Nasty party" read on

 

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-10-15/calls-for-welfare-minister-to-resign-over-comments-about-wages-for-disabled-workers/

 

£2.00 an hour

 

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-10-15/labour-freud-apology-is-not-the-end-of-the-matter/

 

Nasty Lord Freud has now said sorry, too late !

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29628557

 

Even that woman Esther McVey said

 

"These words will haunt him"

This why Tory party should Never win a out right victory at a general election

 

But then again Non of the parties deserve to win a out right victory anyway

[citizenB]

Interesting to learn that Labour made the recording.. now if it had been someone from the Labour Party who had been recorded, Miliband would have been shouting "foul".

[rebel11]

He's got a history of making gaffes,

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lord-freud-says-bedroom-tax-2644751

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/food-banks-lord-freud-blundering-3222149

 

I don't think it matters who does the recording, you know 'foot in mouth' is a constant, that

pretty much sums up the Cons. They have big questions to answer on ATOS / DWP, the

state killing over 10,000 citizens is nothing to be proud of.

[Mr.P]

Disgusted by the comments made - Just waiting for the local Tory MP to come knocking asking for my vote. If I'm in, it will give me a chance to tell her exactly what I think !

 

 

 

p.s. Thanks mods. Hadn't seen that citizenB had beaten me to starting a thread.

[45002]

Interesting to learn that Labour made the recording.. now if it had been someone from the Labour Party who had been recorded, Miliband would have been shouting "foul".

 

It's nothing new theses recording

 

All the main parties send people in recording fringe meetings at All the party conferences It was the tories who started it many years ago

[**Margaret**]

Been there, done that,

 

Philip Davies MP (Conservative) already got the T-shirt;

 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13809620

 

Margaret.

[estellyn]

It's really simple - is the disabled person able to do the same job (with reasonable accommodations)? If so they are entitled to the same wage as an able bodied person. Otherwise what we're talking about is exploitation or a 'race to the bottom' where wages are concerned - yes it starts with allowing disabled people to 'offer' to work for lower wages, but soon it would devolve into a system where people reverse bid for a job with the lowest wages they're willing to work for - of course the benefit system would have to subsidise this (as in subsidising the profits of business).

 

If a disabled person is unable to do the same work as an able bodied person, even with accommodations, there are other avenues open to give a foothold into the 'world of work', bolster self esteem and gain work experience - it's called the voluntary sector. There is also short term work experience for those wanting to prove themselves.

 

As a disabled person with chronic illnesses, sometimes, even if we don't want to, we need to accept that we're not fit for the world of work at present. I would love to work, but no employer, even a voluntary organisation is going to accept someone who is too ill to work 50-75% of the time. I do what I can to give back to society in my own (small) way.

[ericsbrother]

Lord Freud used to be an advisor to the labour leadership and they had similar policies prior to the minimum wage legislation so it is not just the tories who think like that. Labour are only kicking off because it suits them to do so today, tomorrow may be very different.

I also think there is an amount of hypocrisy by the charities who are now kicking up against this as their view has changed over time as well, now favouring benefits over work rather than campaigning to get disabled people into gainful employment.

I agree that a big problem will be that some employers will exploit any scheme so even if someone works at a lower productivity and need supervision they will make sure that all of the costs are borne by the taxpayer rather than them. This is a real stumbling block and may cause riots in Boston as eastern Europeans are priced out of their slavery in the fields of Lincolnshire

[Nystagmite]

And how much is this going to cost the taxpayer?