Private Parking Fine- Ldl car park

[Barnsley Boy]

I suspect that there is no "strong disagreement" - just my lack of elequence in not explaining myself very well.

 

My point is that there is nothing wrong with a private company having a paid car park, it is perfectly acceptable, we all use them. Using a barrier on exit is more sensible than pay & display as it removes all doubt as to who the contract for parking is with. Pay & display really does not work for private car parks.

 

What is not acceptable is to impose additional charges for "overtime", "parking out of bays" etc which bear no relation to the normal parking charge - fines in other words.

 

I agree fully to Zamzara's statement, just wish I were as elequent.

[lamma]

agreed. (I was joking )

[TheRanger]

"I trespassed onto private property and now I'm being sued.. boo hoo hoo"

 

I bet most of the folks complaining on this forum would not dream of breaking into a hotel because, oh, there's 300 rooms and a lot look like they're empty, but they think it's perfectly ok to park on a private carpark because "oh look, there's a space".

[Al27]

Yawn

[Barnsley Boy]

"I trespassed onto private property and now I'm being sued.. boo hoo hoo"

 

Looked through the thread and can't find the quote anywhere. Clearly following the great PPC tradition of making it all up as you go along.

[pin1onu]

I bet most of the folks complaining on this forum would not dream of breaking into a hotel because, oh, there's 300 rooms and a lot look like they're empty, but they think it's perfectly ok to park on a private carpark because "oh look, there's a space".

At the risk of troll feeding....

 

I bet that most folks complaining would not dream of obtaining money by deception, committing fraud, breaking case law or by [causing problems] people with documents that are designed to mimic official ones like the majority of the PPCs do.

 

Why don't you crawl back under your bridge Mr Troll?

[scaniaman]

"I trespassed onto private property and now I'm being sued.. boo hoo hoo"

 

I bet most of the folks complaining on this forum would not dream of breaking into a hotel because, oh, there's 300 rooms and a lot look like they're empty, but they think it's perfectly ok to park on a private carpark because "oh look, there's a space".

Don't know where your from Ranger, but if in Scotland there is no law of trespass, except recently, Govt buildings (Follywood) and Royal residencies have some protection under the law of trespass. I very much doubt that Lidl would get any Scottish lawyer to act on their behalf in a trespass case.

I agree, it must be most annoying for owners of private land to find every Jack &his dog use it as their own car park. Clear signage is probably the cheapest deterrent, but won't stop the arrogent or airheads.

[robin9342]

"I trespassed onto private property and now I'm being sued.. boo hoo hoo"

 

I bet most of the folks complaining on this forum would not dream of breaking into a hotel because, oh, there's 300 rooms and a lot look like they're empty, but they think it's perfectly ok to park on a private carpark because "oh look, there's a space".

 

That would be breaking and entering which IS a criminal offence. Just like invoices purporting to be from an official body like the council or the police

[WAVE_131]

Check National-Clamps web site, the page for making payments.

 

Notice at the bottom, the bit about immobilisation being carried out by franchees of a firm in the BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS.

 

One hopes that this is not a tax [problem]! They will of course declare all the money to the relevant tax authority, though I believe that company documents declare them to be a "small company exempt" ie not subject to external auditing.

[the_freedom_trail]

Hello TheRanger,

 

If someone has tresspassed on your property I would remind you that we were all born in to this world and it is ours to share with one another.

 

How long have you been in private parking? You seem a little stressed - I recommend moving to the coast and taking up guitar playing - very relaxing

 

Now, have I told you about my friend that got wheel clamped? You never guess what - he took a pair of bolt cutters to the clamp lol £300 they wanted oh dear - the little wheel clampers obviously didn't know anything about contract law now did they?

 

P.S. Mummy soneone played in my car park - I WANT TO SEND THEM LOTS OF NASTY LETTERS AND TAKE THEM TO COURT boo hoo hoo I'm so cross I might even pretend to be a baliff.

 

Just grow up

[carparkvictim]

Hi I'm new to this, so hope someone out there can help!

 

My office is a shared building with parking bays allocated to various companies, therefore not every member of staff has a bay, and so I usually park a few streets away from my office. However in the school holidays the bays are often empty so sometimes staff park in bays which aren’t allocated to them.

 

I was late for work by 45 minutes a few days ago and so parked in an empty bay belonging to one of the other companies so I could get to work faster. I parked at 9.45am. When I went to my car at 5.30 I had a ticket from Met Parking Services with a £100 fine, reduced by 50% if paid in 14days. It wasn’t until I got home that I saw that the ticket said it was issued at 9.10am, which simply wasn’t possible. Despite the fact that I did park in a space which wasn’t allocated to me, the ticket was issued incorrectly, I wonder how valid this ticket is?

 

I checked for any signage today, and could see only one sign, on the approach to the parking bays, which is at knee height. The terms of ‘contract’ are presented, but one sign seems inadequate – it is quite small and very low.

 

Although, between you and I, I know that I shouldn’t have parked there, I wonder if I still have grounds not to pay purely because they issued the ticket supposedly at 9.10 am when I was 15 miles away stuck in traffic. I am no longer living at the address registered with the DVLA, I moved home 4 weeks ago and havent gotten around to updating the DVLA yet, so any further demands for payment will go to my old address (my parents’ home). I understand that private parking companies have no grounds for ‘enforcement’ or to send debt collectors? Should I decide not to pay up, I’d hate to think of anyone banging on my mother’s door demanding money!?

 

I wonder if you might advise me, would you suggest I contact them and appeal, pay up or ignore them.

 

Any advice would be much appreciated.

[lamma]

you need to read around an here. Its a mail [problem] and they won't be knocking on doors. NEVER contact a PPC, there is no 'appeal' that is just part of the [problem] to pull you in. Old address is okay for real DVLA purposes as you are contactable via it but you should update that sometime soon.

[carparkvictim]

thanks lamma. i've had a look on the site this morning and it seems everybody just says to ignore the ticket. its just a nagging doubt in the back of my mind. but i can argue that i wasnt there at 9.10am I guess and they need to prove that I was...?

 

so should i just stick the ticket in the back of my cupboard, not write to inform them that I won't be paying?

 

Thanks for your help!

[david1605red]

It would still be down to a Court to decide the contract was not valid.

Not quite, if the "parking charge" was deducted by an employer, and the employee had signed a contract with a clause agreeing to these charges, his only recourse would be to an Employment Tribunal, claiming for Unlawful Deduction of Wages.

 

You can only get to one of these once you had been through the proper grievance procedure with the employer, and been through the ACAS system.

 

So you would have to produce a legal argument to convince, preferably the employer, or if not a Tribunal comprising employment specialist solicitors / trade unionists, that the terms of the contract of employment were invalid because they contain an unfair penalty clause. Might be a tricky one.

[carparkvictim]

the ticket was left on my windscreen and has nothing to do with my employer. my employer has nothing to with the parking charge, so its a case of:

 

do i write to MET and say im not paying, or

do i ignore them completely

[lamma]

ignore them.

[crem]

the ticket was left on my windscreen and has nothing to do with my employer. my employer has nothing to with the parking charge, so its a case of:

 

a) do i write to MET and say im not paying, or

b) do i ignore them completely

 

b) b) an B) again! Never have any contact with a PPC in any shape or form unless it is across the court room.

[bunkerman1981]

Hi

 

I have received a parking charge because, although I had bought a ticket, Euro Car Parks do not provide sticky tickets, and when I shut the car door, the ticket must have blown off the dash board!

 

The day I got the ticket, I photocopied the charge notice and ticket, and posted it to Euro car parks, explaining that as I had paid for a ticket then could they cancel the fine. I have now received a reply, saying "It is the responsibility of the vehicle driver, prior to leaving the vehicle to ensure that a valid pay and display ticket is clearly visible on the dashboard or facia panel for an attendant to see" they say "Our attendant would not know at the time that you had a valid pay & display ticket, therefore the pcn was issued correctly and remains payable".

 

I see all your thread regarding Euro Car Parks say they won't follow it up, if they really did (I still have the ticket) would I win in court?

 

Thanks

Alethea

[crem]

 

I see all your thread regarding Euro Car Parks say they won't follow it up, if they really did (I still have the ticket) would I win in court?

 

Yes

[bev50uk]

I got a fine for parking in a disabled bay and not displaying a blue badge..in a retail park out side super drug.....the reason i did park there was i am ill but dont have a blue badge...the day i parked in this bay i hadnt noticed untill i got out of my car that it was a disabled space, but i was genuinly feeling so ill at that time and only needing to be in the chemist (superdrug) for about 5-10 mins i didnt think it would be a problem, on my return i had a fine....40 pound i think it was if i paid within 14 days otherwise it would be 120...i came on this site and read up all the things about this and decided i was going to ignore all the stuff that came from these people....which i have up to now, I have now today got a letter from Roxburge debt collectors demanding i now pay £172 for their client TPS Parking Solutions Ltd within 7 days or they will pass it on to their solicitors. I came on here tonight to confirm i am right by ignoring this....and now i am panicking like mad...think i have read it all wrong and i should have paid the original fine before i end up having to pay loads to them...as i did see a sign saying a blue badge had to be displayed, but there was plenty of other spaces it was nearly time for the shops to close, I was going to claim I didnt have a blue badge as i dont want the world knowing im ill, ut now im having doubts about it all...please help..

[kiptower]

total [problem] , and just what are the solicitors going to do ,,, say booh you to you

 

in the first place blue badge bays on private property mean nothing and in fact could be challenged as being unlawfull under the DDA

 

keep ignoring like you have so far

 

and the most important fact IT IS NOT A FINE Private parking Companies CANNOT ISSUE A FINE its a [problem] invoice

[robin9342]

Ignore, ignore and ignore again. No communication with these scamsters is the best option.