Ministry of Justice explain why the Compliance Fee of £75 is deducted first.

[Bailiff Advice]

Yes it is a problem on a few forums, frustrating because it stifles useful informed debate, though as you say this is probably the intent.

 

I am aware that a similar thread was started on LB a few days so and that one too has been disrupted and even closed by the moderator.

 

One of the most common questions that I am asked concerns 'Freeman on the Land' and their obsession with 'debt avoidance'.

 

Quite honestly, there are so many similar types of 'movements' that the internet is simply overwhelmed by the many thousands of sites that 'purport' of offer 'advice but in reality, are seeking to disrupt any means of enforcing a debt. I have been asked to write a media article on this subject and will copy it here in the next few days.

[elcordobez]

Here we go again, its FMOTL. No reputable publisher will look at your work.

 

Your post 1 is wrong. Dodgeball post 20 is correct. It applies to proceeds of enforcement, and 'enforcement' is defined in law in section 62 of the tce Act.

[Fair-Parking]

Spot on Bailiff Advice.

 

They usually come in threes - bit like Larry, Curly and Mo and then delude themselves that they are the clever ones by confusing insults and monotony with intelligence.

[Peterbard]

Here we go again, its FMOTL. No reputable publisher will look at your work.

 

Your post 1 is wrong. Dodgeball post 20 is correct. It applies to proceeds of enforcement, and 'enforcement' is defined in law in section 62 of the tce Act.

I will discus the legislation with you, however you will have to start another thread in order to avoid disrupting this one, this one is about the fee and its dispersal by the authority.

[outlawla]

Let's just remember the old regulations where issues similar to the ones on this thread were frequently argued.

 

The advice then was to pay the bailiff rather than the council because local authorities would allocate any monies paid direct to the council (less than the full debt) to the bailiffs in respect of their fees.

 

It was discovered that this wasn't the case at all. I'm getting a sense of Déjà vu here.

[elcordobez]

Spot on outlawla.

 

Creating this thread to push the idea councils pay bailiffs is utter total rubbish.

[Fair-Parking]

And the insults continue.....

[Peterbard]

And the insults continue.....

 

indeed cue the next, supporting nonsene.

 

Outlaw has a pint IMO, I remember the issues under the old regulatory system. It is early days here, the fee system seems to me to be fairly well defined, as does the procedure, there are buggs that need to be worked out and someone has to keep an educated eyew on what is going on to make sure no liberties are taken, but personally I think so far so good.

[Neckbeard]

The same question is posed by these 'new users' time and time again.

 

That is because it never gets answered. The statement about how the councils are legally obliged to pass on the fee gets repeated and repeated, yet when asked to show which part of the law says this must happen, no evidence is forthcoming.

 

It just descends into a FMOTL insult when it is no such thing. FMOTL are fools.

 

Inevitably, the posters asking these 'awkward' questions get banned.

[Fair-Parking]

The chorus begins.....

 

Two up, one to go.

[Neckbeard]

 

Obviously they like nothing better than to ensure that the thread gets closed as in that way the page will very quickly fade from public view. The tactics are as transparent as a net curtain.

 

I would love nothing more than the threads to remain open - closing them is a sign that the cheerleaders are losing, or the paymasters have told them to as the truth becomes more apparent.

[Neckbeard]

I don't remember saying anything about legislation, the evidence i was referring to is on of the practice, which is endorsed by the information mentioned.

This is the way it works, now if some do not like it, it would be for them to find a reason why they cannot operate this way. Perhaps there is some "legislation " which says fees cannot be debited in this fashion.

 

Practice is no legislation. the legislation has made it perfectly clear on how a bailiff can collect his fees, and that is by a single means only. He collects his fee from the proceeds of what he has taken control of. There is no other provision that allows his fees to be paid. The council should not be passing any fees on to the bailiff - if they want to pass on any monies, it will be of their own free will from their own budget and not to the detriment of the debtor.

[Peterbard]

The chorus begins.....

 

Two up, one to go.

 

LOL, like clockwork.

 

Cant do the figures any good on their usual forum, while all three are on here usage drops by 50%

[Neckbeard]

The chorus begins.....

 

Two up, one to go.

 

No-one gives a shiny shilling what you think. Go back to bullying people.

[Neckbeard]

LOL, like clockwork.

 

Cant do the figures any good on their usual forum, while all three are on here usage drops by 50%

 

Would you prefer we followed the example on here and create several user accounts and have conversations with ourselves?

[Peterbard]

Practice is no legislation. the legislation has made it perfectly clear on how a bailiff can collect his fees, and that is by a single means only. He collects his fee from the proceeds of what he has taken control of. There is no other provision that allows his fees to be paid. The council should not be passing any fees on to the bailiff - if they want to pass on any monies, it will be of their own free will from their own budget and not to the detriment of the debtor.

 

As I said to your friend, I will gladly attempt to correct these misconception for you however please start another thread.

[Neckbeard]

As I said to your friend, I will gladly attempt to correct these misconception for you however please start another thread.

 

No, this thread is about if the fees can be paid to the bailiff if you pay the creditor direct. I can't see the purpose of a new thread to discuss the same subject.

[Peterbard]

No, this thread is about if the fees can be paid to the bailiff if you pay the creditor direct. I can't see the purpose of a new thread to discuss the same subject.

 

No read the title

 

To explain

 

You want to air your misinterpretation of the legislation, this thread is about the reason that a practice actually happens.

[elcordobez]

Tomtubby/bailiff advice. Just show us the legislation.

[Peterbard]

Tomtubby/bailiff advice. Just show us the legislation.

 

Don't you have somewhere else to go

 

Getting a little boring now

[Fair-Parking]

Now there's an odd reply from Neckbeard - a 'freshman' whose membership commenced less than a month ago and yet he passes an opinion which given that I haven't posted on this thread or any other for weeks, suggests that he already knew of me.

 

A 'freshman' with a unique insight indeed.

 

If one did not know that this idiot was hiding under a name with its misogamistic linkings and insults aimed at TomTubby, you could be forgiven for thinking that he was psychic rather than stupid enough not to realise that he and his cronies have been rumbled and that it is they that nobody is listening to.

 

Two up - one to go is fact and not an opinion

 

As I say if only insults were intelligence

 

Still when you are obsessed, you become blind to reality.

[elcordobez]

If TT cant answer a simple question then this thread should be deleted. Its complete garbage and with a troll joining the thread its purpose was clearly designed to misinform.

[Neckbeard]

Now there's an odd reply from Neckbeard - a 'freshman' whose membership commenced less than a month ago and yet he passes an opinion which given that I haven't posted on this thread or any other for weeks, suggests that he already knew of me.

 

A 'freshman' with a unique insight indeed.

 

If one did not know that this idiot was hiding under a name with its misogamistic linkings and insults aimed at TomTubby, you could be forgiven for thinking that he was psychic rather than stupid enough not to realise that he and his cronies have been rumbled and that it is they that nobody is listening to.

 

Two up - one to go is fact and not an opinion

 

As I say if only insults were intelligence

 

Still when you are obsessed, you become blind to reality.

 

That's because I'm not a freshman, just a fresh name. I notice you didn't attempt to deny the 'bully' tag. No doubt some essay-length emails will be sent to owners of other sites, as if they're to blame.

[Neckbeard]

If TT cant answer a simple question then this thread should be deleted. Its complete garbage and with a troll joining the thread its purpose was clearly designed to misinform.

 

No, no, no - the thread needs to remain to show that she is wrong.

[Fair-Parking]

That's admitting your deceit -