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I rather suspect that it isn't statute barred, but I will ask for you.

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In England the limitations period for unsecured debts (which this one is) is 6 years so if you live in England or wales then no it is not SB. In Scotland, different rules apply

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What do the letters actually say?

Are they just standard drivel or do they state they WILL go for CCJ?

 

Is EOS collecting on behalf of a client or have they purchased the debt?

 

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What do the letters actually say?

Are they just standard drivel or do they state they WILL go for CCJ?

 

Is EOS collecting on behalf of a client or have they purchased the debt?

 

Stigman

 

It says (dated 20th August):

 

Our client has tried to get in touch with you on a number of occasions to discuss you account which is seriously overdue. Your account has now been passed to the Director's Office within EOS Solutions UK plc for further action.

 

We now inform you of the seriousness of your actions - failure to contact this office and arrange the payment in FULL or to make an arrangement satisfactory to both parties within the next 10 days may result in one of the following actions taking place:

 

1. Your account could be transferred to one of our field representatives to call at your home to recover the outstanding balance.

 

2. Your account could be transferred back to our client, South East Water Limited who may decide to start legal proceedings.

 

~ I sent them a Statue Barred letter soon after and they replied (From Complaint Officer, dated 26/08/14) with:

 

I am writing in response to you recent communication with our office.

 

I have now received a copy of the bill with a statement of your account(shows the last payment made was 13/03/2009) from our client South East Water Limited which are enclosed. Please note the copy of the bill is outstanding at £545.21 with charges for traces and administration fees on the copy of the statement that totals £569.21

 

I can confirm the the account has been placed on our hold process for 14 days to allow you time to contact me,

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The "Letter from the Directors Office" is one of their standard templates. I got a couple of those while I was waiting for a CCA request a couple of years ago.

As for SB , no it's not so you will need to cross your fingers for the next 6 months.

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

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Hopefully you will be able to wait this out for 6 months or more.. If South East Water do try to litigate, then you could offer instalments - it will be in small claims court so there will be minimal costs. Are there any charges added to the account already ?

 

It says (dated 20th August):

 

Our client has tried to get in touch with you on a number of occasions to discuss you account which is seriously overdue. Your account has now been passed to the Director's Office within EOS Solutions UK plc for further action.

 

We now inform you of the seriousness of your actions - failure to contact this office and arrange the payment in FULL or to make an arrangement satisfactory to both parties within the next 10 days may result in one of the following actions taking place:

 

1. Your account could be transferred to one of our field representatives to call at your home to recover the outstanding balance. Hmm, and exactly how do they plan on recovering the outstanding balance by using one of their field reps ! March you down the ATM - break your legs - sell your dog ?? They are not even permitted to send a rep without first making an appointment and presumably you don't intend to make an appointment. This is intimidation, pure and simple.

 

2. Your account could be transferred back to our client, South East Water Limited who may decide to start legal proceedings. As it has never left South East Water, this is a stupid statement from them.. the DCA is just being used to administer any collections

 

~ I sent them a Statue Barred letter soon after and they replied (From Complaint Officer, dated 26/08/14) with:

 

I am writing in response to you recent communication with our office.

 

I have now received a copy of the bill with a statement of your account(shows the last payment made was 13/03/2009) from our client South East Water Limited which are enclosed. Please note the copy of the bill is outstanding at £545.21 with charges for traces and administration fees on the copy of the statement that totals £569.21

 

I can confirm the the account has been placed on our hold process for 14 days to allow you time to contact me,

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Hopefully you will be able to wait this out for 6 months or more..

 

 

Hi CB,

 

 

I'm quite new on here & was wondering if you could explain this point further as I am in a similar position re the 6 years arriving with all my debts.

 

 

As they have contacted the OP within 6 years doesn't that "reset" the 6 year clock?

 

 

TIA.

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As they have contacted the OP within 6 years doesn't that "reset" the 6 year clock?

 

Nope,

If the OP writes a letter with a written acknowledgement of the debt or the OP makes a payment within the six years, then this resets the statute clock ticking.

 

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No, many creditors would like you to believe that by sending a letter they are resetting the clock however once the cause of action has accrued (complex subject) the only thing that can reset the SB clock is either a written acknowledgement of the debt i.e I owe you £1000 or my debt to you of typoe thing

That or a payment made by the debtor or with the debtors express permission

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

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Where do I count the 6 years back to?

The last payment I made, correspondence sent?

 

Depending on the correspondence sent, it has to be a written of acknowledgement of your debt, please note that asking for proff of the debt or a CCA request does not count as acknowledgement.

Or once again the last payment made, 6 years in England/Wales, 5 years if in (soon to be free from an evil dictatorship hopefully) Scotland.

 

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water debt are the same as say a credit card debt

they are not a priority utils unlike gas/elec.

 

 

ignore eos deal with the water company.

 

 

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