Will Scotland stay or go?

[rebel11]

There are just too many unknowns, it would be very disappointng if the Scots decide to vote for independance.

[sequenci]

Agree. I can't see Salmond being much of a voice on the world stage. In addition, I think it'll be incredibly tough for them to join the EU - Spain wouldn't be happy for one. And Nato will probably be a non-starter too.

[rebel11]

The following countries demonstrate how prosperity aspirations can go wrong just look at the recent woes of Ireland, Iceland, Cyprus, etc.

 

Initially everything might seem rosey, but is it really sustainable in the long term, they won't have the EU to bail them out.

[SHIRLI]

its too close to call, I really do not think any of this has been thought through there are so many unanswered questions, the residents of Scotland have been let down by rumour and misinformation from both sides.

[sequenci]

its too close to call, I really do not think any of this has been thought through there are so many unanswered questions, the residents of Scotland have been let down by rumour and misinformation from both sides.

 

You're quite right. Some of the stuff Salmond has said is as bad as the stuff coming out of Westminster. He's pretty incredulous.

[caro]

Salmond would not necessarily lead a new Scotland as they'd surely need a general election for a new government under whatever constitution there might be.

 

They'd lose so much voice by not being part of the uk and eu I think it would be very tough to be commercially strong.

[citizenB]

Regardless of what happens, I do not want to see any members of parliament from Scotland voting on issues that affect the English only !

[sequenci]

Regardless of what happens, I do not want to see any members of parliament from Scotland voting on issues that affect the English only !

 

That's a really good point, and *if* Scotland gets devolution max then perhaps a rule should be introduced to do just that.

[caro]

Regardless of what happens, I do not want to see any members of parliament from Scotland voting on issues that affect the English only !

 

The English need their own government as other uk countries have IMO.

[rebel11]

Well it's all pretty close, if anything lots more 'undecided'.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

The English need their own government as other uk countries have IMO.

That is most definitely true.

Also we must be allowed our Nationality to be stated on Passports/ Census returns and all other Government documents.

 

 

If it's a no vote is the outcome, equality on all matters must be restored, so we English get free prescriptions/care/tuition etc., or Scotland loses those benefits.

[helena246]

if this country was a true democracy all uk residents should have been given a vote as the outcome will affect us all. I know where my allegiance lies and I suspect so does our government. it would have been a 95% yes vote

[Guest]

not all bad news. friends company has just won the provisional tender to build a new border wall

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

not all bad news. friends company has just won the provisional tender to build a new border wall

G4S get the border control contract, but only 24 guards available and are recruiting in Calais!!

[maroondevo52]

They say It's too close to call, I think that's garbage.

I'll be a big NO for me

[citizenB]

I got the impression that even if it is a NO vote, then there will still be some more shifting of power !

[Guest]

I got the impression that even if it is a NO vote, then there will still be some more shifting of power !

 

 

yes, more into westminster

[postmn]

no they hgave already said they will give more powers to Scotland if they vote no to independence , personally everyone else should have a vot eon wether Scotland would get more powers

[Guest]

G4S get the border control contract, but only 24 guards available and are recruiting in Calais!!

 

 

but then they wont be able to supply the staff (legitimately ), so the scots will have to employ the army. hang on, they wldnt be able to use the british army?

[Capt Slog]

I hope that they do vote for independence. Why should they get all these new exemptions and privileges, that the government say they can have, if they vote no. It all smacks of panic and desperation to me, flying the Scottish flag on public buildings……. for crying out loud, when some councils won't fly the Cross of St George incase it causes offence to parts of the community. What next? Lets all eat a Haggis and drink Irn Bru or Red Cola? (I do like both haggis and Irn Bru but not at the same time) In fact as I live closer to Edinburgh than London why can't I have a vote?

[ploddertom]

So no truth in the rumour there will be a Mac-CAG website being listed then?

[Capt Slog]

Either way it goes the result could cause leadership problems for all parties concerned. If Scotland stays within the UK then what would happen to the SNP as a party. If they vote for independence then what happens down here? We already have a bad tribute act of The Three Stooges. Maybe we could get Brucie now he's free on a Saturday night.

Edited September 11, 2014 by Capt Slog

[determindator]

I can't understand why certain companies have left it until the eleventh hour to say they will pull out of Scotland if it's a Yes vote. They've had long enough to evaluate the situation. There seems to be a method to the madness here.

 

Why can't Scotland become a tax haven, great on our doorstep!

 

I've heard it's more about how it will affect the share prices of major players and how Britain will be perceived if Scotland becomes independent. It's all about image.

[sequenci]

I can't understand why certain companies have left it until the eleventh hour to say they will pull out of Scotland if it's a Yes vote.

 

They didn't think they would need to. Given that they've had to stick their neck out - and potentially tarnish their reputation - shows the gravity of their concerns.

 

What, you'll notice, they haven't said - is that should they put up the prices in Scotland would they reduce them down here? After all, we're subsidising the Scots by all accounts!

[citizenB]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9151646/Scotlands-oil-rich-Northern-Isles-tell-Alex-Salmond-We-might-stay-with-UK.html

 

Orkney and Shetland might cause Salmond some problems - apparently they prefer rule from Westminster - in the alternative, if Salmond will give them more oil rights then they might consider voting yes.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnicholson/2014/03/05/5-reasons-why-scottish-independence-would-be-an-economic-disaster/

 

 

 

 

3 Financial mismanagement

 

Scotland’s banks have become a byword for chaos and catastrophic losses, after the hubris of the 1990s turned into the near-collapse of the mid-2000s with massive rescue packages needed for Royal Bank of Scotland RBS +0.27% and Lloyds (both of them based in Edinburgh). The SNP announced in November 2013 that, under future independence arrangements, the Bank of England ‘would become a lender of the last resort’ following any future crises

 

This would mean taxpayers in the rest of the UK bailing out Scottish banks, despite them being in an ‘independent’ country. The evident nonsense of this position seems to be lost on the Scottish National Party.

 

As one website remarked, Alex Salmond believes he still has the right to use gym equipment, despite giving up his membership. ‘I have been a member for many, many years, so why they think everything in the club is for the exclusive use of the remaining members is completely beyond me,’ the website imagined him wondering.