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Hi folks,


I had a classic mini up until about 4 years ago when I gave it to a garage for a restoration.


Long story short

they tried to shaft me by charging double the agreed fee for a job less than half done.

I still haven't managed to save up enough to take them to court to get the car back

however have continued to register the car SORN up until this year.


I rang the DVLA a few weeks back and advised them of this story

and they said to send a letter in and the car would be recorded as no longer in my possession.

I did this and today have received a letter back that has completely astounded me.


It starts:


Thank you for your response in respect of the Late Licensing Penalty issued to you for failing

to relicence your vehicle as required


Say what?

This is the first I've heard of any penalty.

I'm certain the DVLA have my phone number and address as I have made sure things are kept up to date.


I haven't had a single letter all call from the DVLA regarding this.


Further down in the letter I get


The case has now been referred to a debt collection agency


I tried to call to find out what is going on,

but the phone number of the letter is a fully automated phone system.


You get the option to pay or a recording that ends in

"Thank you for your call, goodbye" no matter what option you pick.


Perhaps that is a good thing because I am thoroughly sick to death of the government.

They've screwed up every part of my tax records recently

(I've had thousands appear out of nowhere from self assessment earnings 5 years back that

they "forgot to bill me for", shortly after that they did the same with NIC contributions from 7 years ago.


I've had about a grand and a half of working tax credits yanked back from me

and I'm still paying that off. I didn't think there were any more government departments

waiting to screw me over but apparently I missed one :mad2:


Anyone have a phone number for a human that I can talk to?

I don't want to scream and shout, I just want to know actually find out the details

of this fine seen as they haven't bothered to send me anything about it up until now.


I'd also like to ask why I haven't had any text notifications

about the renewal of a SORN if it did indeed expire.

I'm certain I signed up for that on the website some years back.

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stay off that phone!!




if you owe the DVLA


you PAY the DVLA not some speculative fleecing DCA.


its a Gov't debt..


NEVER EVER pay a DCA for one of those.



please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks for the reply and warning - I could have been clearer. I did not call the DCA I called the DVLA on the number for their "enforcement centre".


I have since done a bit more investigation to figure out what is going on.


Turns out the DVLA have got the wrong records on file for me (2 1/2 years out of date).


I did send the logbook off to them when the address changed including an explanation of no longer having possession of the vehicle

- this is why I hadn't continued to make any further SORN notifications.


I've prepared a letter stating this, restating the current situation regarding the car

and stating their failure to properly notify me if they thought there was an issue on the tax status.


I phoned the DVLA previously regarding the car and the person I spoke to made no mention that their was an overdue license penalty

on the registration from more than a year ago.


I've cited my sending the original red logbook off to them in Dec 2012,

referred to Section 07 of the Interpretations Act 1978 and that I have fulfilled my obligations to notify them.


I've then included a paragraph referencing court cases were the DVLA have attempted to assert that the IA doesn't apply

and they have lost along with cases they've tried to wangle out of by saying the registered owner should have followed up

having not received an acknowledgement (and lost).


The only reason I am aware of the penalty at all is because I became aware that I had not had the acknowledgement

(in June this year) and contacted them to get one.


I finished off by telling them to remove the fine and call off the DCA, providing written confirmation.


So place your bets, do they back down or dump another unsigned stock letter on me?

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