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Hi

Could some please help me.

I am a manager and out of the blue a senior manager turned up and informed me she was here to conduct a fact finding meeting around allegations made against me.

 

 

2 were founded but I feel that I gave good reasons for my actions - but they happened one month ago.

 

 

The 3rd is definaltey a fabrication.

 

 

The minuting lasted 5 minutes and when I tried to show her evidence she didnt want to look and she was the one taking minutes, possibly 1 line for each.

 

 

Is this part of a discipilnary? I am making myself poorly thinking and thinking about it.

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Did this manager tell you at the end of the fact finding meeting there was a case to answer

 

Did she say they will be going for a formal disciplinary meeting

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Hi

many thanks for your reply.

No she just said she was asked to gather the information for the director (we are a small company and he looks at all disciplinarys) I asked how long it would be before I knew what was happening and she said possibly 2 weeks.

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Not to worry then, this is still fact finding. It will probably blow over

 

If you get another letter to a full disciplinary just update this thread, which might not even happen

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Many thanks - I certainly hope so. However the job/stress and hours are killing me. Have got stress and now alephcia!

 

 

thankyou

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It does sound as though it is a case of being seen to do something rather than actually getting stuck into a problem. Make sure that any further steps follow the acas code so proper notification of proper meeting, knowing waht you are supposed to have done wrong before meeting so you can give a considered response, having colleague/rep present etc.

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Hi

Many thanks

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You need to act:-

 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/

 

Many thanks - I certainly hope so. However the job/stress and hours are killing me. Have got stress and now alephcia!

 

 

thankyou

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Hi

Please can anyone help!

2 managers and HR turned up this morning and suspended me while doing investigations.

They have issed me with a letter stating 3 reasons why, I have already admitted 2, but dont see that they were serious, the other I cannot for the life of me recall, but what they are saying I do not think I would ever do.

I asked why I had been suspended and they say that it was difficult for me to be around when there are lots of people to talk to.

In March I went of with severve work related stress on Diazepam, propanolol and citrilipam just to get through a working day. I took the time as annual leave. I was also called. After I had annoyed another manager about complaining about his performance 'it was reported that he had started a witch hunt' from one of my staff and was called into to discuss this, no further action was taken.

Is there anyone who can advice (PM would be good)

Thanks

peggyann

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Hi peggyann

 

It's against site rules to give advice by PM.

 

At the moment you've been suspended whilst an investigation is carried out. It is normal procedure. You will have the opportunity to rebuff any information they obtain during the investigation at a later date. It might be an idea to sit and plan what you are going to say if they do start disiplinary procedures, any mitigating circumstances your actions.

 

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=4227

 

Hi

Please can anyone help!

2 managers and HR turned up this morning and suspended me while doing investigations.

They have issed me with a letter stating 3 reasons why, I have already admitted 2, but dont see that they were serious, the other I cannot for the life of me recall, but what they are saying I do not think I would ever do.

I asked why I had been suspended and they say that it was difficult for me to be around when there are lots of people to talk to.

In March I went of with severve work related stress on Diazepam, propanolol and citrilipam just to get through a working day. I took the time as annual leave. I was also called. After I had annoyed another manager about complaining about his performance 'it was reported that he had started a witch hunt' from one of my staff and was called into to discuss this, no further action was taken.

Is there anyone who can advice (PM would be good)

Thanks

peggyann

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Hi

Now been suspended for over a week!

Feel so poorly hair falling out and not sleeping.

I know the job was getting disfficult and to keep on top of things was working 50 hours a week. Have on the whole had agood relationship with director until complained about another manager and down hill it went - 1 very proffesional member of staff came and spoke to me and she is concerned there is a witch hunt on me!!!, she right it doesnt stop.

Have forgot how to relax, switch off, sleep and laugh. It is now effecting my health.

Went to investigatry meeting yesterday and gave them my version of events and dont feel I did anything than try and keep the company complientant to regulations.

At the end of the meeting I asked them to negatiiate my resignation with references that show my exeptional work and commintment.

Would any decent boss do this? rather than GMC.

Thanks

Peggyann

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Without knowing the exact allegations it is hard to tailor advice. BUT I have some generic advice below. Hope it helps.

 

1) I am concerned about your health. I would advise seeing a doctor urgently. Apart from being ill I am also concerned that you are not in the right frame of mind to manage your investigatory and disciplinary IF ONE happens

 

2) Do not go into these meetings alone. Use the right to be accompanied!!

 

3) Get copies of the notes - In the next meeting make sure you read them carefully before signing them. Ask for changes to be made if they do not reflect the main points of the meeting. If they refuse then write "I disagree that these are accurate and my requests for alterations were refused" or "Signed under duress"

 

 

4) Treat it as a paid holiday (Outside of your entitlement) Ask yourself how worrying is going to change the outcome. Use this time to prepare your self mentally and physically. Maybe seek advice from CAB

 

5) Lets not think about resignation. If you have handed in a letter I would advise recalling it on the grounds that you are not mentally well at the moment and were not of sound mind when you made the offer. (If backed up by the doctor this would have more strength) Company would not necessarily have to accept it though.

 

6) For your next meeting have some prep done.

a) List of the points being investigated as headers

b) Points of evidence or contention of their allegations and evidence.

c) any counter claims if applicable

d) Ask them what happens now

e) Request and agree the arrangements on you receiving a copy of the notes from the current meeting - make sure they are listed in the notes.

f) Remain calm.. If you feel you are loosing it, demand an adjournment so you can compose yourself.

g) If you are struggling at your job, have you received all the training you are meant to have received and even if so, is there any other training they can do to support you.

h) Mitigating circumstances - Excellent record attendance etc, how much you love the company and would like the opportunity to stay etc Ass Kissing Bit


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Hi Sabresheep

Its a really long story and am so confused because I feel what I did was not wrong, just trying to ensure paperwork correct. No falisfication etc and why did it take 4 weeks to become a problem. They spoke to me on te Monday but didnt suspend me until Thursday after a very important meeting with outside proffesionals on teh wednesday and would have looked odd if not there. I still havent heard about the invistigation meeting held Thursday.

Unfortunatley there us no one I can take to disciplinary, so really worried.

Thanks

Peggyann

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Hi

More advice please.

Had my investigatory meeting a week ago, where I challanged their allegations, Still havent heard anything - is this usual.

Thanks

Peggyann

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Many thanks for your reply, can you tell me why it would take so long please.

Thanks Peggann

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They have more research to do

 

They are busy with other things

 

Sometimes people are suspended for months - chill!


Never assume anyone on the internet is who they say they are. Only rely on advice from insured professionals you have paid for!

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Hi

I have received statements - going for instant Dimissal, anyone answer the following please?

 

 

1. The statement relating to a phone call i had with a manger = phone conversation 6/5 reported 8/7

2. Incident I was reprted for doing 3 saff in very small (so couldnt miss anything = 1 staff say i did it, myself and other staff saying I didnt

 

 

Is there anything I can fight with?

Thanks

Peggyann

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I don't understand what "doing 3 staff in very small" means!


Never assume anyone on the internet is who they say they are. Only rely on advice from insured professionals you have paid for!

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Hi Emmzzi

Sorry it should have read

 

 

3 staff in a very small area - so actions could not be missed.

 

 

Both count of the disciplinary I am disputing as they did not happen.

Thanks

Peggyann

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Ok. So, have you asked them to take statements from the staff who did see you doing the thing you were meant to do?


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Yes, I now have copies of all statements.

 

 

The staff there was myself - who totally denies i did the actions. Two others were senior staff, the one who made the complaint ( 1 month after the incident) states i did it, the other said she has not knoweledge and cannot recall me doing such a thing.

 

 

I just thinks its odd that both allegations happened 1 and 2 months before the allegations were made.

Thanks

Peggyann

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