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My brother was originally on Incap for years, then they transferred him to JSA in March 2013. He started work last monday & is loving it. He is 31 yrs old. Single. No dependants. He has cancelled his JSA & housing benefit & isn't entitled to any housing benefit, but seems he will get about £50 a week working tax credits.

I understood him to be able to get a 4 week run on with housing benefit though. But the council have told him he won't. He did get sanctioned with JSA for getting the day wrong with an appointment a couple of months ago. Although the council said it wasn't to do with that. It was because he hadn't been on JSA long enough. Even though he was on it just over a year.

He didn't realise the time to be on JSA is 26 weeks for the 4 week run on.

Could it be because of the sanction do you think?

I think he is going to try ringing them tomorrow, but it's difficult for him because he is now working full time in a different town.

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I do not think the sanction has anything to do with the council decision in your brother's case.

 

 

When a JSA claimant is sanctioned it triggers an automatic notification of a change of circumstances on the computer systems. This is conveyed to the council benefit offices and housing benefit stops at once. It happened in my case but I was fully reimbursed when I wrote to explain what had happened.

 

 

I don't know enough about the other issues you raise, sorry. There are a few here who do know and I feel sure they will respond when they next come along.

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Was he in receipt of HB for every day of the 26 weeks prior to his starting work? That is, even if the sanction caused an interruption to his HB claim, was he eventually repaid the money lost?

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the issue is not about HB being continuous for 26 weeks - but JSA being continuous for 26 weeks - if there was even a one day break in JSA - this would disqualify from run on, even if no break in HB

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the issue is not about HB being continuous for 26 weeks - but JSA being continuous for 26 weeks - if there was even a one day break in JSA - this would disqualify from run on, even if no break in HB

 

Yes, of course - I missed that. Oops.

 

Does a period subject to JSA sanction count as part of the 26 weeks? I was never sure of that because back when I processed ESA, sanctions were so rare that the issue never arose.

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HBR 72(1)© states:

 

the claimant or the claimant’s partner had been entitled to and in receipt of a qualifying income-related benefit, jobseeker’s allowance or a combination of those benefits for a continuous period of at least 26 weeks before the day on which the entitlement to a qualifying income-related benefit ceased.

 

It is my understanding that during a sanction a person has an (underlying) entitlement to JSA but is NOT in receipt of JSA

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HBR 72(1)© states:

 

the claimant or the claimant’s partner had been entitled to and in receipt of a qualifying income-related benefit, jobseeker’s allowance or a combination of those benefits for a continuous period of at least 26 weeks before the day on which the entitlement to a qualifying income-related benefit ceased.

 

It is my understanding that during a sanction a person has an (underlying) entitlement to JSA but is NOT in receipt of JSA

 

Ah, that could be cool then, because he never stopped getting JSA when he was sanctioned, they halved it? so he was still 'in receipt'of it, just a lower payment?

They can't have it all ways, surely? lol

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The starting point would be to submit written request for a run on (if he hasn't already) - then if it gets refused, request a written explanation as to why it has been refused

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The starting point would be to submit written request for a run on (if he hasn't already) - then if it gets refused, request a written explanation as to why it has been refused

 

Ok great, thank you, that's a good idea, shall bung him a txt & suggest he does that.

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Ok great, thank you, that's a good idea, shall bung him a txt & suggest he does that.

 

If you and he have the time, it would be very helpful to us if you could keep us updated on what happens.

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They wouldn't budge :| Apparently it is to do with the sanction after all. So it's almost a shame now that he got the job so soon after. If he had been sanctioned 6 months ago, he would have been fine.

I guess that's the way it goes. He got paid friday & paid his rent on line, & will set a direct debit up, so he is doing the right things by the sounds of it. I just think it's a shame, if he had 4 weeks to get set into a routine, considering he hasn't worked for about 7 years (he'd been on incap til a year ago) he could have done with those 4 weeks.

Thanks for all the advice though.

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