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Pay Display Local Authority-Signage **Ticket Cancelled**

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Can anyone explain what signs are required on pay and Display car parks. Are there any rules regarding size of lettering/colour of background etc? Is there precise legislation I can refer to?

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The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 and the Traffic Signs Manuals govern on-street signage. But they don't apply to off-street parking.

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What's the background to this? Have you had a parking ticket?

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yes, i got a parking ticket for not displaying two tickets for my motorhome which intruded on to a second bay. When I looked carefully at the notice board the notes about needing two tickets where at the bottom of a fairly large notice which rambled on about public toilets, tourist information, green spaces etc. before pointing out the parking restrictions at the very bottom. I am contesting the ticket, and £50 fine and looking for points of law on which to contest

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type of ticket?

 

is it a penalty charge notice from a local authority or is it a private car park


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Local Authority, to be precise South lakeland District Council. I got the PCN in Kendal

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I am not sure there are regulations in the same way that street signs have them. As I understand, the signs need to state terms and conditions, and if the information isn't clear, then a PCN could be challenged. Based purely on what you say, it sounds like the info is there, and I doubt you would win on the basis that it's not clear because there is other, unrelated info on the signs as well. You could have a go though.

 

The other thing you can do is ask the council for a copy of the Off-Street Parking Order for that car park. This will state the conditions and penalties in law, and of course the bit about needing two tickets has to be there, not just on the signs, or the PCN would be invalid. Maybe ask for a copy and let us know what it says?

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What offence is it? I fail to see how they can issue a PCN for failing to display two tickets??

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RESULT! For anyone following this thread, I received a letter today from South Lakeland District Council accepting my appeal and cancelling the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN)-the basis of my appeal was that the notice board adjacent to the payment meter gave too much information (about Kendal, tourist information, etc., etc., etc) with details regarding the actual parking regulation only featuring at the very bottom of the notice board. In particular I pointed out that the lead in to the parking regulations details was partially obscured by the payment machine, resulting in me having to (sort of) look behind the payment meter to fully read everything. I strongly suspect that a similar situation exists in every South Lakeland DC car park. Check it out if you get a ticket or consider an appeal if you have already received one. Good luck and thanks to anyone who has taken an interest in my case.

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