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    • Darn I was going to drop the two frozen doses in some vodka and blackcurrant and take them both in one shot ..     Quickly hitting beyond my competence (even to understand and basic confirm others work) with the DNA -> RNA messenger -> protein mechanism of Covid and the vaccine   1. The covid infection apparent can pass on to a first trimester foetus - so the spike vaccine almost certainly will 2. The spike protein mechanism is used in a number of 'normal processes 3. There are some similarities between some of the infection mechanisms used by Covid and some other highly infectious deseases like aids (this is worrying - but not vaccine wise as dar as I can see)   Rather than waffle on, my summary is that apart from the unknowns around mRNA messaging mechanisms and their interactions, let alone interfering with them, and other than normal maternal issues experienced during pregnancy, the covid vaccine would be reasonably expected that it WILL pass to the foetus, including generating a level of immunity and also potentially causing effects caused by the vaccine in adults (ie the effects causing headaches etc in adults).   Whether the foetus will tolerate these effects better or worse than an adult/the mother and whether this particular use of a common RNA messaging system will do to a developing foetus is beyond my understanding or estimation, BUT I see nothing definitively untoward to date. That the messaging system is common would seem to indicate to me (as a none expert) that there appears to be little potential for the process going badly wrong - but not none.   I also see little or no reason to expect a difference from a traditional type covid vaccine (the Chinese developed one for example).   The REAL issue (apart from its very effective infection mechanisms briefly mentioned above) with covid and immune systems seems to me to be the cytokine storm effect https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-immune-mechanism-triggers-cytokine-storm.html https://www.marketwatch.com/story/does-a-cytokine-storm-hyperaggressive-immune-response-lead-to-covid-19-deaths-scientists-say-they-have-an-answer-2020-11-14     Too many links and references used to show, a number of which I had already been studying. Heres a few, https://www.gponline.com/pregnant-women-under-18s-will-not-offered-covid-19-vaccine/article/1701457 https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/study-suggests-embryos-could-be-susceptible-to-coronavirus-as-early-as-second-week-of-pregnancy https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2633494120962526 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31822-5/fulltext (see links) https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200814/COVID-19-during-pregnancy-shows-no-affect-on-placental-structure-and-pathology.aspx https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201125/SARS-CoV-2-spike-antibodies-can-persist-200-days-after-symptom-onset-UK-based-case-study-finds.aspx https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/aji.13308   Very Technical https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0025619620305164     and of course https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/202005/anti-vaccine-and-covid-19-conspiracy-theories-perfect-storm https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201125/SARS-CoV-2-spike-antibodies-can-persist-200-days-after-symptom-onset-UK-based-case-study-finds.aspx    
    • To be fair call ‘em again they might have a different story. The nice lady at my local council told me they were really sorry but the system is completely messed up and the figures keep changing for many people every month. I’ve had 3 revisions of my C/tax bill already.   As a practical advice I recommend you contact your local elected councillor. You should be able to Google their mobile / email details.
    • Thank you for your quick response. Now i learned my lesson I don’t want to go to supermarket anymore.  
    • nope  forget about it totally   you'll get scary letter from a bunch of scammers called RLP you put their letters in the bin.   how many other times have you? shoplifted since the 1st incident 5yrs ago and not been caught please?   dx      
    • Exactly TJ,  some of the stuff out there is well dodgy and should be treated with extreme caution, however the info sheet is genuine though, and some things  on it do deserve a closer look.
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I would appreciate if anyone could provide some input as to what will happen in the following case, please.

 

I use the DLR every morning to work, and

 

my travel card runs from Tuesday to Monday.

 

Last week, I thought I'm better off using pay as you go for the week, as I wouldn't be working on (Good) Friday and (Easter) Monday.

And so I did.

 

This made me out of sync this week and

 

I went on the train without buying travel card (and without trying to touch in

- I got used to not bothering to touch in or out at my local station with my travel card).

 

I was stopped after few stations, and

remembered that I didn't buy my travel card as soon as I handed my oyster to the guy.

 

I kind of got shocked, and to be honest I don't even think I explained myself to him.

 

He asked me what station I got and I told him and requested if he could let me top up at the next station.

 

He said 'you do know there will be a fine, right?' twice

and I only paid attention as to what that could have meant after he let me off at the next station.

 

He didn't take/ask for any details, but my oyster is registered.

 

What could he have meant?

 

Many thanks in advance.

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So the Inspector has the Oyster?
No. He handed back the oyster to me when he was letting me off. I topped up and got on the next train.

 

However, my oyster is registered and he saw the balance, my expired travel card etc in his card reader.

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I would appreciate if anyone could provide some input as to what will happen in the following case, please.

 

I use the DLR every morning to work, and

 

my travel card runs from Tuesday to Monday.

 

Last week, I thought I'm better off using pay as you go for the week, as I wouldn't be working on (Good) Friday and (Easter) Monday.

And so I did.

 

This made me out of sync this week and

 

I went on the train without buying travel card (and without trying to touch in

- I got used to not bothering to touch in or out at my local station with my travel card).

 

I was stopped after few stations, and

remembered that I didn't buy my travel card as soon as I handed my oyster to the guy.

 

I kind of got shocked, and to be honest I don't even think I explained myself to him.

 

He asked me what station I got and I told him and requested if he could let me top up at the next station.

 

He said 'you do know there will be a fine, right?' twice

and I only paid attention as to what that could have meant after he let me off at the next station.

 

He didn't take/ask for any details, but my oyster is registered.

 

What could he have meant?

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

I'm a bit confused about what you said, would you be able to clarify please?

 

Why don't you bother touching in your card? I have only a basic understanding of the system, but it seems to me that this causes trouble.

 

I also don't understand how it works between your travel card and your Oyster. Could you tell us a bit more please?

 

HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

I'm a bit confused about what you said, would you be able to clarify please?

 

Why don't you bother touching in your card? I have only a basic understanding of the system, but it seems to me that this causes trouble.

 

I also don't understand how it works between your travel card and your Oyster. Could you tell us a bit more please?

 

HB

Thanks for your reply.

 

- Instead of buying a paper ticket, I buy the ticket with the oyster (i.e. the oyster serves as a travel card).

 

- As I understand, only customers with pay as you go oyster cards are required to touch in and out. If you have a travel card in your oyster, you are not required to touch in or out. This is my experience with the DLR, most of stations of which have no turnstiles. My oyster was inspected several times without me touching in or out, and it never posed a problem - as long you have a valid ticket in your oyster and you're not out of the zones in which it's invalid, there won't be a problem.

 

Perhaps I digressed a little in my original post. Let me reiterate what I had wished to ask. The person in charge of the DLR train I was travelling on started inspecting tickets this morning and I failed to show a valid ticket. I pleaded to top up at the next station, which the train was going to stop in about a minute. He let me off at the next station, handing me back my oyster, but left me with the remark that there will be a fine. I wasn't given a penalty fare or anything of the sort. I wondered later whether he might have meant that I'll be receiving a fine through the post (while he didn't take my details at the time, I assume they can be traced as my oyster is registered). What do you think?

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1. A travel card style oyster doesn't need to be tapped on and off to deduct the journey but merely a key to open the barriers which should be on all stations in my opinion! Now IF you have registered the card and top it up / purchase a weekly then you can be fined directly onto it which would have been evident when you went to top up by showing a debit of £40. If that's not the case and you don't have the infamous penalty fare (as a receipt) you got off with a confusing chiding..

Hope that helps

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Hello OP, any update as to what happened?

Nothing happened. I think I was being paranoid/cautious as this is something that never happened to me before. Sorry for taking so long to post update.

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If that's not the case and you don't have the infamous penalty fare (as a receipt) you got off with a confusing chiding..

Hope that helps

I think that's exactly what happened. Thanks for the information as to how this works.
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I must clarify the misconception around Oyster.

 

You MUST ALWAYS touch in and out with your Oyster card, on National Rail, even if you hold a travelcard or similar season ticket on it.

 

Travelcards on Oyster

 

3.7 When you use a National Rail service, you should touch your Oyster card on the yellow card

reader before you start your journey, at the station you are leaving from; and at the end of your

journey, when you arrive at your destination station. You can still use your Oyster card at

stations where there is no yellow card reader or if it is not working provided that your

Travelcard is valid for the journey you are making. You may be asked instead to show your

Oyster card (and photocard where needed).

 

If you do not like this condition of use, then I suggest you use traditional "paper" travelcards.

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