pcn/parking ticket

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

a few pointers on what can and cannot be done with pcns.

 

if the parking attendent has started to write the ticket out you can drive off. the ticket is not valid as long as it has not been handed to you or been stuck to the vehicle.

it is also illegal for parking attendants to stand in the front of your vehicle when you are driving off !!!

 

you have 15mins grace from the time stated on your pcn before you get clamped.

also you cannot get a pcn within 12 hours of the original ticket unless your vehicle has moved from the spot.

there are others but they will not let me write these down. i have been through parking tickets bailiffs/courts etc and know my way around like the back of my hand. anyway click the scale if you think what i have told you is worth it !!

[buzby]

However, parking attendants can (and do) just bin the driver's copy in the nearest receptacle, and then when the paperwork arrives through the post, it is your workd against theirs that the ticket was never applied to the vehicle.

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

That is where the law is flawed its your word against their word !!!!

[buzby]

Absolutely - so if you expect them to bin it, there's little point in making a getaway, unless you've video evidence (or an independent witness) to back you up - which usually means partners and spouses are ineligible....

[tigerlilly24]

Forgive me but shouldn't we all just be law abiding citizens and park within the remits of the law? That's the ONLY real way to avoid getting a parking ticket !

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

cheeky sodds. nice though how they can have you from whatever angle they like ?

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

We all do but then you get the odd parking attendant who thinks otherwise

[tigerlilly24]

I've never got a parking ticket

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

youve probably got a skoda estelle or something lol:p

[tigerlilly24]

Nope Khan I have Jaguar XKR, V8 4.2 litre .......... i have a very rich husband ! lol

[Guest Battleaxe]

The parking attendants now take a photo of your car with the ticket attached to the wind shield, to prove it was lawfully served.

 

Once they start writing the ticket, that's the end of it. You have to prove your innocence.

 

I am with Tigerlilly on this one, pay your parking fee, check where you park and you remain clean.

 

I have never had a parking ticket or a traffic infringement in 47 years of driving in five countries.

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

i have a lucida 2.2 and am a poor sodd lol:p lol

[tigerlilly24]

Khan, there's one going second hand if you're interested? here's the link Jaguar, XK Series Xk Xk V8, 4.2, 2 dr - Yahoo! Cars

[dax]

Tiger, ive been parked in a box with a paid parking ticket in my windscreen, showing the time and date, that corresponded with the time and date of the so called offence. I knew id done nothing wrong, even checked I was parked correctly because I was becoming paranoid about getting tickets as they arrived accusing me of illegally parking, when I had no recollection or ticket. Still the process whereby you dispute that fact is a farce, and in the end its youre word against the wardens. The reponse from the authorities is:

 

I have read youre account of the incident carefully. Unfortunately, it conflicts with the parking attendents account. The Council and its agents employ only trained and accredited attendents to act as expert witnesses.In the absence of clear evidence to the contrary, I must presume that the parking attendents account of the circumstances is accurate.

 

Therefore Tiggy, you need to carry a camera at all times and when it happens to you, you know youre being conned and the only assumption I could make was that the attendents were on commission or bonuses, dependent on how many people they could stitch up in a day.

 

On another occassion, I actually had a policeman who just so happened to be passing. Assure me I was not illegally parked or on a yellow line. He gave his number and station telephone number to act as witness. An owner in the shop I had just left, saw the same, and wrote a letter witnessing the event too. Do you think that stopped the council from continuing with their action? No

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

I am after a lucida thanks. lol:p

[Jimbo44]

a few pointers on what can and cannot be done with pcns.......................................

 

it is also illegal for parking attendants to stand in the front of your vehicle when you are driving off !!!

 

 

Whether it's illegal or not I guess they'd be b****y stupid to stand in front of a car they were just ticketing!!!!!!

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

Its if you do not know what they are and arnt allowed to you would not move your car as it was against the law which it is not !!!

theyre not even allowed to stand on the road while writing a ticket out. the most they can do is stand on the kerb . I know this because i had a run in with tickets. hEnce know where to stand my ground.

[Pen]

I don't think we should be looking for ways of not paying parking tickets when we have parked in the wrong place how scally is that. don't brake the law and you won't get fined, simple as that who needs all the hassel. I admit there are the odd few TWs who will put a ticket on anything thats stood still long enough but most tickets are for parking offences.

Pen

[buzby]

Fortunately, I think the overiding sentiment on here is quite moral, if you get caught, then take the punishment - however if there is skulduggery involved with a less than scrupulous TW, I see no reason why they should not be held accountable for their actions.

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

I don think there is moral when you have a run in with a scrupelous pa/tw

[patdavies]

I don't think we should be looking for ways of not paying parking tickets when we have parked in the wrong place how scally is that. don't brake the law and you won't get fined, simple as that who needs all the hassel. I admit there are the odd few TWs who will put a ticket on anything thats stood still long enough but most tickets are for parking offences.

Pen

 

I agree that if you break the law, you should pay the fine.

 

However, the law cuts both ways. The authorities have to abide by the law in how they create, sign, mark amd enforce parking restrictions. If they cannot work to the letter of the law, then any resulting ticket is void and not payable.

[queenjomati]

I have had 4 tickets recently for parking outsidemy house, which i have done for the last five years and now suddenly we have these community support officers who think they run the village!! ( there are no markings near my house, its a clear road) They have even been stopping people and searching them which only a police officer can do apparently. Any way i have now discovered that the tickeys are invalid and i would like to claim the money back does anyone have any idea where i start. I am thinking of writing to the magistrates court and appealing but not sure what the correct way is. can anyone help

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

As you have paid you have admitted liability. You can only write in to the magistrates and see what they say.

[buzby]

How are the tickets 'invalid'? If you mean they've been issued without lawful authority - then wrtie to the issuer stating this and that they have 14 days to repay thew incorrect fines. Failure to do so will result in you issuing a Small Claims Action for the recovery of your funds.

[queenjomati]

The tickets have several errors.

on one the ticket was not signed and also the location is just main street, which happens to be over a mile long, i have learnt that the ticket must be precise as to where the alledged offence took place. on another the date is for next year, talk about getting your quota in!!.

I am thinking of going to the courts and asking them how i can get my money back, i dont think that just cos i paid i accept liability, if i can fight what i consider to be unjust i will. surely if the ticket issued was invalid then any subsequent action becomes unlawful.