RLP replied to my One Liner of No Debt owed - help

[renegadeimp]

Some of the retailers will already have concern, especially after the Oxford case. Thats why some retailers have dumped RLP

[ScarletPimpernel]

Look at it from a retailer's viewpoint - make a bit of cash you otherwise wouldn't have had, even when you've recovered goods intact. When (and I suspect it will be when and not if), an innocent or vulnerable person harms themselves under RLP's bullying, and the story hits the media, retailers will drop them like a hot potato, and claim they weren't aware of their methods.

[renegadeimp]

Bet it wont stop RLP claiming that they had nothing to do with it and the innocent party had various mental conditions.

[pawsforthought]

Cheers guys

 

I will now wait for the next letter, is there no reply that will stop them dead in there tracks. Surely a good solicitor could put a good response together and show how bad there system is. Similar to the template that is sent to the so called debt collectors that RLP send in.

[renegadeimp]

RLP seem to be deaf to pretty much everything. The only thing we advise sending is the one line letter saying "Any liability to you or any 3rd party associated with you is denied. No further correspondance will be entered into, and continued communication will be considered harassment and will be pursued through the courts".

[pawsforthought]

This is a new letter I got if it helps. Anyone seen this one ?

 

 

Without Prejudice Save as to Costs

Claimant’s Offer to Settle Claim Pursuant to Part 36 Civil Procedure Rules 1998 (“CPR”)

 

As you are aware, we act on behalf of our client in relation to the incident as referenced above. We note you have not responded to our letter dated

 

We have advised our client that there is sufficient evidence to proceed.

 

That being said, in the spirit of compromise, we are instructed to make an offer to settle our client’s claim pursuant to Part 36 CPR.

 

Our client is willing to accept £95.00 in full and final settlement of the claim, including interest accruing, and any potential set off or counterclaim.

The offer is made pursuant to Part 36 CPR and is intended to have the consequences of Part 36 CPR. If you wish to accept the offer, please respond within 21 days of the date of this offer to advise us. If you require a longer period to consider the offer and take legal advice, please advise us within 23 days.

 

If you wish to accept the offer, you are required to confirm your acceptance in writing. For your ease, we have attached an acceptance form for completion and return. If the offer is accepted, payment will be due within 14 days of acceptance. If you require longer than 14 days to pay, please advise us by completing the relevant section on the acceptance form, as our client is willing to consider a number of payment options.

 

If you do not wish to accept the offer, you may forward further information with evidence in support of your circumstances together with proposals for settlement, for our client to consider.

 

Regrettably, if we do not hear from you, we will take our client’s further instructions, which will put you at risk of the case proceeding.

 

You are strongly urged to seek legal advice in this matter given the risk you are putting yourself at. We recommend that you seek advice from a suitably qualified and experienced legal adviser, in the area of civil law and procedure, and the tort of conversion. This advice can sometimes be available free at a Law Centre, or under an existing insurance policy.

We await hearing from you within the next 21 days.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Legal Department | RLP |Tel:0844 893 2181 |Fax: 0844 893 2191

Email:[email protected] |Web:www.lossprevention.co.uk | PO Box 5413, Nottingham, NG7 2BJ

[ScarletPimpernel]

Yep, seen that one before. The usual grandiose posturing dressed up to sound as if they are a professional law firm, which they are not.

[citizenB]

That type of letter is usually only sent out after a claim has been issued ?

[renegadeimp]

Most likely no claim has been sent out, and RLP are seeking to mislead the receiver as SP said, in hopes that they back down and give in.

[ScarletPimpernel]

That type of letter is usually only sent out after a claim has been issued ?

 

RLP refer to their speculative invoices as claims. I imagine that any resemblance to a genuine court claim, issued by a proper law firm, is entirely intentional.

[renegadeimp]

They are also so legit, they operate using masked phone numbers and use a PO box instead of a solid address

[ScarletPimpernel]

They are also so legit, they operate using masked phone numbers and use a PO box instead of a solid address

 

I wouldn't be surprised if La Lambert claims that the PO box is a security measure designed to protect against all the threats she claims RLP receives, but I suspect it's really because RLP's physical offices are in a very unprepossessing 'rent a desk' business centre in a Nottingham back street.

[pawsforthought]

What amazes me is that a so called proffesional company haggles over money by reducing it to a lower figure. How would that stand up in court ?

 

Well sir/madam due to the cost of security blah blah blah you owe our clients £146.00 but now we can,t get the full amount from you we will drop it to £96. I will try that with a solicitor next time I use one. I wonder if they would except a goat and two chickens at least jackie wouldn,t go hungary.

[pawsforthought]

This is the latest letter I have now received asking once again for the full amount.

 

Our Client

Incident

 

Amount Outstanding £147.50

 

As you are aware, we act on behalf of our client in relation to the incident as referenced as above. We note you have not responded to our letter datd --/--/--

 

There is sufficient evidence to establish liability. Our client is therefore in a position to issue proceedings against you, without any further reference to you, and reserve its right to do so. Although the true cost which our client incurred as a result of your wrongful act is greater than the sums claimed, we are instructed to recover the contribution to the loss as previously notified.

 

We take this opportunity of confirming the position regarding your data. As previously advised, our client has passed us your information, the information regarding the incident and any supporting evidence, in order to pursue a civil claim. We rely upon our clients description as an accurate account of the incident. It is therefore important that if there are any circumstances, that you have not already made us aware of, which you may consider relevant to the incident, to advise us without any further delay, in order to ensure that an accurate record is retained.

 

The information we hold may now be passed to the police or other crime initiatives in the interest of preventing and detecting crime and may be available to members of a closed user group for employment screening. Please note, employment screening may only be conducted with your prior consent.

 

Our client considers it is reasonable to give you one final opportunity to take some proper legal advice, and to address this matter.

 

Whilst there is no legal obligation to consider mitigating circumstances in civil proceedings, our client operates civil recovery within a set of core principles which were initially agreed upon with ACPO. These have been developed further since then to ensure further protection of those who may be considered vulnerable, those with mitigating circumstances or those in long term financial hardship. If you consider this may apply to you, it is important that you notify us of your circumstances.

 

If we do not hear from you within the next 14 days, with you reasonable settlement proposals, or with any information relevant to this matter, it will either be issued, or passed to a specialist company which recovers debts and undisputed claims for damages.

 

If you wish to make an offer, please contact our collection department on 0844 245 1145.

[renegadeimp]

Its one of the usual letters jackie sends out. Seriously, I wonder when she will get shut down. Maybe her letters give the authorities a good laugh.

[pawsforthought]

How can they offer me a payment of £95 then put it back up to £147.50 ? I will keep posting the letters as they come.

[spamheed]

Dear Sir/Madam/Empty Desk,

 

Please please please please please please tyake me to court where you can explain how this amount is a true representation of the loss incurred by your client, by the activities you allege and which allegedly resulted in nothing being taken from your client. I look forward to hear your explanation before a judge.

 

Until you are in this position, please feel free to Foxtrot Oscar

 

Yours etc

[dx100uk]

she doesn't say legal proceedings like the last copy of that letter here.

 

just 'proceedings' ....most speculative invoices. interesting.

 

dx

[honeybee13]

Hello again Paws, thank you for the latest letter.

 

or passed to a specialist company which recovers debts and undisputed claims for damages.

 

Undisputed claim? Is that a new one from RLP? Maybe it's a way of getting around saying there is no debt.

 

HB

[pawsforthought]

Thanks for everything I hope you don,t get bored of the letters, at least if anything changes from past letters you will know. All the best.

[citizenB]

This is the latest letter I have now received asking once again for the full amount.

 

Our Client

Incident

 

Amount Outstanding £147.50

 

As you are aware, we act on behalf of our client in relation to the incident as referenced as above. We note you have not responded to our letter datd --/--/--

 

There is sufficient evidence to establish liability. Our client is therefore in a position to issue proceedings against you, without any further reference to you, and reserve its right to do so. Although the true cost which our client incurred as a result of your wrongful act is greater than the sums claimed, we are instructed to recover the contribution to the loss as previously notified.

 

We take this opportunity of confirming the position regarding your data. As previously advised, our client has passed us your information, the information regarding the incident and any supporting evidence, in order to pursue a civil claim. We rely upon our clients description as an accurate account of the incident. It is therefore important that if there are any circumstances, that you have not already made us aware of, which you may consider relevant to the incident, to advise us without any further delay, in order to ensure that an accurate record is retained.

 

The information we hold may now be passed to the police or other crime initiatives in the interest of preventing and detecting crime and may be available to members of a closed user group for employment screening. Please note, employment screening may only be conducted with your prior consent.

 

Our client considers it is reasonable to give you one final opportunity to take some proper legal advice, and to address this matter.

 

Whilst there is no legal obligation to consider mitigating circumstances in civil proceedings, our client operates civil recovery within a set of core principles which were initially agreed upon with ACPO. These have been developed further since then to ensure further protection of those who may be considered vulnerable, those with mitigating circumstances or those in long term financial hardship. If you consider this may apply to you, it is important that you notify us of your circumstances.

 

If we do not hear from you within the next 14 days, with you reasonable settlement proposals, or with any information relevant to this matter, it will either be issued, or passed to a specialist company which recovers debts and undisputed claims for damages.

 

If you wish to make an offer, please contact our collection department on 0844 245 1145.

 

 

The content of this letter borders on blackmail, IMHO !

 

I am not sure how the author of the letter can use RLP and principles in the same letter either ?

[renegadeimp]

One of these days, someone is going to take this woman and her company to court and see how they fare. I know about the oxford case, but what is really needed is a full trial about her business ethics and pratices.

[ScarletPimpernel]

How can they offer me a payment of £95 then put it back up to £147.50 ? I will keep posting the letters as they come.

 

 

I fear that if you imagine that RLP might act in a rational or professional way, you will be waiting an awfully long time.

 

We have seen that letter before - or at least bits of it. I suspect that Jackie is a proficient cut n' paste artiste, especially where grandiose-sounding legal terms are concerned.

 

I wonder if the 'undisputed claims for damages' bit is an attempt to justify DCAs trying to collect non-existent debts, in breach of their licences? It strikes me that not making contact (or sending the one-liner denial of liability letter), annoys Jackie almost as much as not paying her speculative invoices. Which is nice.

[2Grumpy]

The content of this letter borders on blackmail, IMHO !

 

I am not sure how the author of the letter can use RLP and principles in the same letter either ?

 

That's my take on the letter too - they will report the OP to the police unless they pay up!

 

Given the "may be passed to a specialist company which recovers debts and undisputed claims for damages." if the single line denial of liability hasn't already been sent then now is the time. That might open up a possibility of a claim against RLP if they did pass on a disputed claim to a DCA!

[pawsforthought]

Hi 2Grumpy

I did send the single line denial of liability some time ago, and I did get a reply if you read through the post you will be able to read it. I will be putting all the letters I receive onto this post just in case anything new crops up. All the best Paws