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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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i know what you mean and i have witnessed first hand the appalling way they treat claimants, i have told my friend to be careful and always ask me if he is unsure about anything.

ive told him he doesn't have to attend as he on ESA assessment rate and not to be intimidated by the provider.

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As an ESA claimant in the Assessment Phase, joeski's friend has no need to engage with the WPP at all. Oh sure, they will probably attempt to fool him into thinking otherwise, but any decision to sanction must be made by the DWP, not the WPP.

 

is there still a chance though my friend will be sanctioned?

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is there still a chance though my friend will be sanctioned?

 

Not likely, no - he can't be sanctioned for failing to attend a non-mandatory appointment. If the WPP refers him, the DM should reject it.

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Not likely, no - he can't be sanctioned for failing to attend a non-mandatory appointment. If the WPP refers him, the DM should reject it.

 

 

thanks i will tell him to stop worrying about it so much.

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Would it not be better to ask what it's about by email? They might ignore emails but at least he can prove he has taken steps to sort things out.

 

it says on the letter they want an update about he current situation and availability for work.

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it says on the letter they want an update about he current situation and availability for work.

 

I'm with Nystagmite - he's fine to ignore them. But if he wants to write or email. he should tell them that his current situation is that he's an ESA Assessment Phase claimant and that as such, he is not required to participate in the Work Programme. That's all he needs to say. He should say it as politely as possible, yes, but he doesn't owe these guys anything.

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I remember when I was put on ESA a few years ago - they asked me for my sick note, which was valid for one month. DWP & I took this to me July 2nd - August 2nd. WP took it to be July 2nd - July 30th. The 30th was a Monday and I'd been away over the weekend. On the 30th, I received a phone, a few voicemails and text messages to tell me that tomorrow, (August 1st) I had an appointment at 9am.

 

After this and another similar incident, I spoke to my job centre who were in agreement with me and spoke to the WP for me.

 

And then somehow, WP decided I was in WRAG and called me. I don't think they were that happy that I'd declined their offer of "help". According to the letter I had from DWP, I can ask for help; but it's not compulsory.

 

Got job centre involved again, (I got the impression they weren't happy either) and I've not heard anything since.

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ive advised my friend to email them explaining he is on ESA and currently in the process of getting help for his issues, you don't think the WPP put it as JSA on the letter because they know something we don't?

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ive advised my friend to email them explaining he is on ESA and currently in the process of getting help for his issues, you don't think the WPP put it as JSA on the letter because they know something we don't?

 

It's actually more likely that the WPP doesn't know something that you do - that something being the fact that your friend is now on ESA.

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Referring to Chapter 5 of the DWP guidance, the provider should have been notified of the change by way of a WP07b. Perhaps a short note to the provider asking if they can read (the WP07b) would be in order.

 

joeski: Paragraph 27 on page 6 may well be of interest:

Mandatory participant moves from JSA to ESA

27. Where you are notified that a mandatory JSA participant has ceased their JSA to claim ESA, they remain attached with you and their participation requirements should be treated as the same as those of a Voluntary ESA participant until the outcome of the Work Capability Assessment (WCA)

On that basis, any appointment letter that uses either JSA or ESA mandation templates would be inappropriate and should be challenged.

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my friend emailed the WPP to tell them he wouldn't be attending the appointment which was yesterday because he is on ESA assessment rate, he never received an email or phone call from them back so i guess he'll know in a few days if a DMA referral has been made or not.

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hi everyone,

 

my friend has his assessment with ATOS later this moth just before Christmas and he wants to how long after the assessment will he know if he has been awarded ESA or not?

he also has appointment with his WP provider which is not mandatory unless the rules have changed about mandatory appointment letters and the wording have been changed which i don't think they have. if he was on JSA this would be his last month on the WP and he wants to know even though he came on JSA on ESA will this still be his last month and will he have to go back to the WP if he is not awarded ESA?

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The clock starts ticking from the day he had his first meeting with the Work Programme provider. Changes to his JSA/ESA claim or short periods of employment does not stop the clock. So if he has almost finished the required 104 weeks, his final meeting will be to complete an exit report - He should demand a copy of this for his own record and as proof that the sentence has been served.

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The clock starts ticking from the day he had his first meeting with the Work Programme provider. Changes to his JSA/ESA claim or short periods of employment does not stop the clock. So if he has almost finished the required 104 weeks, his final meeting will be to complete an exit report - He should demand a copy of this for his own record and as proof that the sentence has been served.

 

thanks, he will be relieved to know he is almost done with them. does this mean he should really attend the appointment in a few weeks time as it'll probably be his last even though its not mandatory? also how long will he have to wait for the results of his medical with ATOS and can he appeal he they say he is not eligible for ESA?

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If the final meeting is not mandatory, then he does not have to attend. Until such time as the results from the ATOS assessment comes through, he is still a voluntary participant. As for appealing any adverse decision, others will be able to offer advice along with tips on how to go about it.

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If the final meeting is not mandatory, then he does not have to attend. Until such time as the results from the ATOS assessment comes through, he is still a voluntary participant. As for appealing any adverse decision, others will be able to offer advice along with tips on how to go about it.

 

thanks for your help, i will pass this information on. he suffers from bad anxiety and can get quite depressed sometimes so i think he should be on ESA WRAG as he would like to get back to work. but it is for higher powers to decide and giving ATOS's past record i don't hold out much hope.

also it does not say on the letter its his final appointment on the WP, all it says is 'client to attend appointment' but its not worded in the right way for it to be mandatory.

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My final appointment with Ingeus didn't mention anything about it being 'final' either - I don't think they have a suitable letter template for that (though it's not exactly rocket science to make one is it!).

 

I had the cheeky adviser say 'This is your last chance to get something out of this course before you leave', to which I replied '..and this is your last chance to find me a good job very quickly so I don't have to put in a lengthy, detailed complaint about this whole place'. Took the wind out of him, that did :)

 

...and I did put in a 4-page long complaint too. As has been said, make sure you get your Exit Report when you finish, and more importantly tell them that under NO circumstances are they ever to contact you again now you're done with them, or else you'll class it as harassment and report them. You really need to hammer things home to these people, sadly. Good luck.

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My final appointment with Ingeus didn't mention anything about it being 'final' either - I don't think they have a suitable letter template for that (though it's not exactly rocket science to make one is it!).

 

I had the cheeky adviser say 'This is your last chance to get something out of this course before you leave', to which I replied '..and this is your last chance to find me a good job very quickly so I don't have to put in a lengthy, detailed complaint about this whole place'. Took the wind out of him, that did :)

 

...and I did put in a 4-page long complaint too. As has been said, make sure you get your Exit Report when you finish, and more importantly tell them that under NO circumstances are they ever to contact you again now you're done with them, or else you'll class it as harassment and report them. You really need to hammer things home to these people, sadly. Good luck.

 

from what ive seen of the WP provider my friend is with they seem pretty useless and big headed, the staff seem more interested in getting outcome payments than anything else.

i told my friend to make sure he gets a copy of his exit report but he literaly hasn't been to one appointment there this year so it shouldn't take long to do an exit report with him lol

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my friend wants to know if he can rearrange his ATOS medical for a day when he'll be able to take someone with him and will it affect his assessment rate ESA? i got a job about 8 months so im not up to date with how the benefits system works any more.

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my friend has recently be awarded ESA support group but today he received a letter telling him his last medical certificate is about to expire and to send a new one by a certain date, i was lead to believe if you are awarded ESA you no longer need to provide medical certificates.

does my friend need to get another one or should he just ignore the letter?

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