Bailliff & demand for old council RENT debt from devon

[sash knighton]

Hi Caggers

 

Just a quickie,

 

I have a debt of £156 that I honestly forgot about when I lived in Devon,

 

Last saturday I was out working and a bailiff came to my door and spoke with my misses,

she didnt let him in,

but he handed her a letter just staing that there is a liability/warrant order and would like to come back when I am present to discuss a payment plan.

 

I do owe the debt and I almost know my rights.

 

But my question is

 

when i arrange for him to come back do I have to let him in to arrange a payment plan?

 

or can I do it on my doorstep?

 

I dont want to let him in for many reasons I'm sure you all are aweare of the obvious ones.

 

But mainly my misses suffers from anxioty and I have 3 children.

Quick response will be appreciated

[dx100uk]

is this for CTAX

 

dx

[leigh04]

Advise is always Never to let them in , they will say they can only set a payment plan if you let them in ,from my understanding thats not the case its all to do with getting more money from a levy etc.

 

SO DONT LET HIM IN

[sash knighton]

Yes Dx its council Tax.

Leigh I'm going to pay it but there is no way i will let them in, so on the day i will state to him that either make a payment plan on the door step or nothing

[dx100uk]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/search.php?searchid=4217210

 

is this the same one?

 

dx

[sash knighton]

Oh no it cant be i paid that off now so this must be rent, sorry my appoligize

[i hate bailiffs]

Yes Dx its council Tax.

Leigh I'm going to pay it but there is no way i will let them in, so on the day i will state to him that either make a payment plan on the door step or nothing

 

Pay the council directly not the bailiffs they will claim all the fees they can and fleece you

[ploddertom]

Oh no it cant be i paid that off now so this must be rent, sorry my appoligize

 

Have you been able to sort out what it is for?

[sash knighton]

Yeah its for rent

[ploddertom]

If it is for rent then you have to establish who has visited. Were you left any paperwork? Chances are it may just have been a Debt Collector.

[sash knighton]

Yes he was a bailiff from rosemndales. Just need to know if i have to let him in to set up repayments

[dx100uk]

rossers also have a DCA wing.

 

what paperwork did he leave?

 

dx

[ploddertom]

As dx says they have a DCA arm called Rossendales Collect.

[tomtubby]

Yes he was a bailiff from Rossendales. Just need to know if i have to let him in to set up repayments

 

The simple answer is that yes...if you want to you can let him into your home but you ned to be aware that if this is your choice that substantial additional fees will be applied to your account and that from any payments made by you....the bailiff fees wil be deducted first.

 

Unless the debt is for an unpaid court fine, the debtor has a choice whether to allow the bailiff into the home or not. The bailiff can only gain entry by being invited in (or peaceful means).

 

At this present time you cannot affford to pay the debt to the council and this would indicate that you are not financially able to pay. Allowing the bailiff into your home will INCREASE the debt and this is what you need to be aware of.

 

Secondly, allowing the bailiff entry into your home will also mean that you will be required to sign a Waking Possession Agreement and the small print on the form will advise you that the bailiff can legally come back to remove all goods listed after a period of 5 days if you have not paid the FULL amount demanded including the bailiff fees.

 

Suffice to say...DONT allow a bilaiff into your home.

 

HOWEVER...and this is important: If the bailiff is unable to gain entry (and thereby increase his fees) he will almost certainly @levy@ upon a car in your driveway. If you have a car be very careful to move it.

[sash knighton]

Cheers tomtubby, i allready understand if i let him in then i dnt have any rights left, the fact is this baillif aint coming in my home what so ever, so if he wants me to do a payment plan then he can do it on my doorstep (lets hope its ****ing it down) lol

[dx100uk]

have you any paperwork he left you

 

dx

[sash knighton]

yes,

it states that he has attended and put a charge on the letter for his visit of £24.50,

 

he said on the phone the other night,

he came round to see if i could pay it all (which i cant),

 

I wasnt in but my gf was and her name is on it aswell.

 

I understand i owe this debt and plan to pay it at an amount that i can afford each month.

 

He said also on the phone that he will arrange with me when he can come round again which he will add more costs.

but if i do arrange with him the next visit

i dont want him to come in my property as my gf suffers from anxioty

[dx100uk]

have you spoken to the council concerned and checked they have a LO taken out

 

if you can pay

do it to the council.

 

dx

[sash knighton]

spoke to council, they got the liability order august 2008

[dx100uk]

why can't you pay them direct [council]

adding p'haps the £24.50

[sash knighton]

apparently i cant prob because of the charge my bailiff put on, i will keep you all posted after i have spoken to my bailiff on the phone a little later

[dx100uk]

err no.

 

pay the council.

 

AFAIK rent can be treated the same way as CTAX arrears

 

dx

[i hate bailiffs]

apparently i cant prob because of the charge my bailiff put on, i will keep you all posted after i have spoken to my bailiff on the phone a little later

 

Speaking to the bailiff on the phone.

....why he is not your mate and will only fleece you

 

Did he not tell you that he is paid on commission

and if he is lucky and can cash cow people he gets extra money

 

Also did he not tell you that there is no right of entry by force

no locksmith

no nothing and

you can refuse to deal with him

And if you tell him to do one

and shut the door not a lot he can do

 

By paying the council you may upset him

he may spit a dummy

or stamp his feet

as he won't be able to fleece you

[brassnecked]

Never phone a bailiff unless you can record the call, never let them in

[ploddertom]

If you are talking Liability Orders & a Visit Fee of £24-50 then this is for Council Tax & not rent arrears.