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Hello,

 

Had a visit from the TV License goons a few months ago (when I accidentally opened the door thinking it was a parcel deliveryI had been waiting for) and was caught on the spot.

 

Didn't let the guy inside and just stood at the door giving details while he filled in a form, the details I gave to the TVL guy were a mix of correct and false, first name was correct but gave a completely different fake/false surname, I should also mention that I never asked me to sign anything so they have nothing with my signature on it.

 

This morning got a letter from the court saying has been summoned for none payment of TV License but the letter is addressed in the fake name, what do I do and is it my problem as its not addressed to me?

 

I did "open" the letter but only because the side of the envelope had already been (very neatly) sliced open, must have got stuck in the machine at the sorting office or something.

 

I don't know what to do now, its a court summons but not in my name. :|

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Generally a summons is not issued unless there is absolute proof of someone watching live TV (or more often a simple admission by the person opening the door), it appears to me that fake surname aside there is no proof of live TV watching and that the OP could deny it. (unless there is more to this that we don't know about).

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If its a court summons, it really isnt wise to lie to the court in that way.

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You could simply say that they never entered the house/property and you dont watch live tv. The court and tv licencing would find it impossible to disprove that.

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The op hasn't confirmed whether he was actually caught red handed and acting unlawfully, all the advice that has followed may be aiding and abetting the problem without further info. I doubt that is in he best interest here if the op was caught watching tv. Giving false details may just make it worse.

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The op hasn't confirmed whether he was actually caught red handed and acting unlawfully, all the advice that has followed may be aiding and abetting the problem without further info. I doubt that is in he best interest here if the op was caught watching tv. Giving false details may just make it worse.

Very true, but on the other hand TVL Capita salesmen have been known to gain convictions against people who don't own a TV by intimating the property needs a license of itself as their old Amstrad 1640 with a snails pace dialup modem might be streaming Eastbenders as it is broadcast (There is no way an Amstrad 1640 could display a TV picture ever)

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Something does not add up here, how can you be summoned to court if you did`t sign anything?, where`s the proof. If the summons is in the wrong name then inform the court that they have the wrong person & see what happens. If you are watching live broadcasts, then buy a license, if you are not, don`t communicate with TVL.

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If no one answers to the summons it will go to court TVL will gain a false conviction against a name that was given to the greedy goon , and Marstons, or Collectica or whoever will then call at the address on the summons, and give a whole load of bullying, and threats to get payment for a shill conviction.

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If no one answers to the summons it will go to court TVL will gain a false conviction against a name that was given to the greedy goon , and Marstons, or Collectica or whoever will then call at the address on the summons, and give a whole load of bullying, and threats to get payment for a shill conviction.

 

I had exactly the situation you describe. An because the name was 'close' they refused to leave without payment. The police even helped them !! I went to court at 0900 and filed stat dec for refund

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I had exactly the situation you describe. An because the name was 'close' they refused to leave without payment. The police even helped them !! I went to court at 0900 and filed stat dec for refund

 

Did they refund the fraudulent payment made under duress, as the bailiff acted in a fraudulent manner if you were not the name on the warrant?

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If they knock on your door. Tell them you revoke all implied rights of access from them.

 

Also whip out your camera phone and begin recording, they will leave. Don't give them any info at all.

 

It is up to them to prove you own a TV that is capable of receiving live broadcast, not you to prove you don't.

 

Even if you open the door and they can see the TV is powered on, they still can't assume that it is live TV, and not a video.

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joey, please re-read the thread. it hs already gone past that point.

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Some people sadly don't know their rights. Which is why sites like CAG exist.

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If you (the correctly named you) ever ends up in court on this pleading not guilty, the guy who reported (the mis-named) you will be in court as a witness. And you might find yourself facing much more than TV License evasion.

 

Personally that is a bigger risk than I would want to take. I am with Renagdeimp.

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Stilljobless appears not to be interested any more. But I am. Not in the TV licence matter, rather in how a court letter can arrive sliced open "very neatly" at the side.

Wintry may have been right to note something not adding up.

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Oh dear, here we go again, we really have been invaded by little men from Mars.

 

Indeed. The best thing to do is totally ignore them. They cant do anything then and will walk away. It also saves you possibly lying and incriminating yourself.

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