Double your dole, Eurocrats tell UK..

[2ltr16valve]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548377/Double-dole-Eurocrats-tell-UK-Ministers-told-current-handouts-manifestly-inadequate.html

 

I found this rather pleasing.

[Consumer dude]

Eurocracts sparked fury last night by ordering the UK to double dole payments.

The council of Europe claims the handouts given to Britain's jobless are manifestly inadequate. Now me thinks, that's going to put the cat amongst the pigeons regarding any current austerity plans..

[osdset]

HM Gov will give Strasbourg the middle digit, unfortunately.

[2ltr16valve]

I wonder how many people are going to be going to solicitors to get this through courts to increase their money and how many would win.

[Consumer dude]

I wonder how many people are going to be going to solicitors to get this through courts to increase their money and how many would win.

 

I'm sure there will be some, and claiming under human rights laws ?

[Consumer dude]

HM Gov will give Strasbourg the middle digit, unfortunately.

 

and get taken through the courts in the process..

[osdset]

and get taken through the courts in the process..

 

Which will take years, I can't see HM Gov doubling benefit rates anytime soon to avoid action can you?

[Consumer dude]

Which will take years, I can't see HM Gov doubling benefit rates anytime soon to avoid action can you?

 

No..

[AndyOrch]

Threads merged and title amended.

 

Regards

 

Andy

[citizenB]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548377/Double-dole-Eurocrats-tell-UK-Ministers-told-current-handouts-manifestly-inadequate.html

 

Link in the first post doesnt seem to work for me - so have replaced it here.

 

Hmm, now I wonder why they are moaning about our benefits when there are so many Economic migrants coming over from those countries in the EU ?? Do they have higher benefits - if so, it might be worth some Brits considering moving to Spain / France / Germany

[Beatrice Bee]

The current JSA is more like £71.70 per week so they got their figures wrong saying it is £67 pw.

 

How can we trust the contents of the rest of the article is correct?

 

Where is a link or reference number to these new directives?

[Mr.P]

The current JSA is more like £71.70 per week so they got their figures wrong saying it is £67 pw.

 

How can we trust the contents of the rest of the article is correct?

 

It is the Mail, so don't trust any figures they quote. As for "cutting the welfare bill that Labour ran up" doesn't really stand up - Yes, welfare spending increased under Labour, but it has seen a steady increase from the earliest days. If we look at the numbers published by http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk, we see that welfare spending has actually gone up under the current government - Not that surprising, as in any recession, welfare spending always increases and drops again as the economy improves.

 

Found this graph that shows welfare spend as a proportion of GDP since 1985: [ATTACH=CONFIG]48954[/ATTACH]

[ashmk]

With any luck it's just Mail nonsense and will never happen.

[45002]

John major and the Tories are equally to blame for welfare spending increasing before Blair and 1997 general election.

 

Getting people to claim IB,so they could fiddle the unemployment figures !

[Beatrice Bee]

Who knows the EU law / directive that says the unemployed has to receive social security benefits while signing on?

 

Any EU law saying we must receive JSA / ESA undermines the legitimacy of the UK benefit sanction laws / regulations.

 

EU states can not pass legislation that conflicts with EU law. 100% these sanctions are illegal because they take away the food from your table for several weeks and not everyone will get hardship payment.

[sillygirl1]

By doubling the dole amount they would end up cutting the housing and council tax reductions because you would be 'over the limit' for those.... so the sneaky government would be in a win/win situation all round!

[Chester6]

With any luck it's just Mail nonsense and will never happen.

 

Why shouldn't it happen?

[wobbly]

The below is the unemployment rates for the Emerald Isle

Jobseeker's Benefit

 

Rate per week

Personal Rate

€188.00

Increases:

Increase for Qualified Adult ( See Note 1)

€124.80

 

Each qualified child

Full rate €29.80 ( see note 2)

Half-rate €14.90 ( see note 2)

 

 

 

Jobseeker's Benefit rates are graduated according to earnings in the relevant tax year. The earnings bands are as follows:

Average weekly earnings Personal Rate Increase for a Qualified Adult

( See Note 1)

Less than €150.00

€84.50

€80.90

€150.00 and less than €220.00

€121.40

€80.90

€220.00 and less than €300.00

€147.30

€80.90

€300.00 or more

€188.00

€124.80

Note 2

You can get an increase of €29.80 for each qualified child if you qualify for an increase for a qualified adult or if you are parenting alone. If you do not qualify for an increase for a qualified adult, you may get a half-rate qualified child increase, if your qualified adult has income of €400 or less a week.

 

Jobseeker's Allowance

 

Rate per week

Maximum Personal Rate aged 26 or over

€188.00

Increase for Qualified Adult ( See Note 1 )

€124.80

Each qualified child

€29.80( See Note 3 )

Maximum personal rate ages under 26

Maximum personal rate aged 25

€144.00

Increase for Qualified Adult

€124.80

Maximum rate for a claimant who is 18-24

€100.00

Increase for Qualified Adult

€100.00

These rates apply to new claims that are made on or after 15 January 2014.

 

Note 1: If you were in receipt of Jobseeker's Allowance prior to 26 September 2007, you may get a reduced rate increase if your qualified adult has earnings or income in excess of €100.00 and up to €310.00 gross per week, ( see Appendix 1).

 

Note 3: You can get an increase of €29.80 for each qualified child if you qualify for an increase for a qualified adult or if you are parenting alone. If you do not qualify for an increase for a qualified adult, you may get a half-rate qualified child increase.

 

Under 26 rates for Jobseeker's Allowance

 

Persons not affected:

 

18 to 25 year olds with a qualified child;

those making a claim for Jobseeker’s Allowance where that claim is linked to a Jobseeker’s Allowance claim made within the previous 12 months to which the maximum personal rate applied;

those transferring directly to Jobseeker’s Allowance from Disability Allowance;

persons aged 18-24 years who were in the care of the HSE during the period of 12 months before they reached the age of 18 will not be subject to the reduced rate of €100. The reduced rate of €144 applies to this customer on reaching 25 years.

Where a person is in receipt of a rate of Jobseeker’s Allowance applicable to persons aged under 26 (as outlined in the table above) and they participate in a course of education, training, Community Employment, Rural Social Scheme or Tús, the reduced personal rate of payment applicable to that course/scheme applies for persons under aged 26.

 

Where a person is under 26 and has completed such a course of education, Training, Community Employment, Rural Social Scheme or Tús, they will revert to the appropriate age related rate of Jobseeker’s Allowance, if they previously had been in receipt of such a rate.

[Beatrice Bee]

Is there no sanctions in Ireland?

[wobbly]

No idea Beatrice Bee,If you are found to have been claiming and working on black market I have heard its a lifetime ban,I know they can ask to see what jobs you have applied for.The unemployment benefit is time limited,Have a look on the Irish Social services web site.Thats were I got that rate info from.